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Discovery Methods for Living Systems

What new methods would help explore consciousness of other beings?

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It seems to me that we humans are limited in our current tools, i.e. scientific method, to see the bigger picture and how various parts of the Earth are alive. In spirituality, a river, a mountain would be seen as alive, while if we look at scientific method, a river is not seen as alive.

I wonder, what new methods humans need to invent to explore consciousness of other beings, who are now by the scientific method are recognised as non-living systems?

Can we imagine a unification of a science and spirituality one day? And how would that look like?


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// 哪些新方法可以幫助探索其他生物的意識?

數學作爲對所有可能結構的研究,可以提供幫助。

//“一條河流不被視爲活着”

意識不是二元的——它是一個連續體——所以,即使是一條河流也可以被看作是有意識的,甚至原子和分子等等——整個世界都是一個物理場,它是相互聯繫的,錯綜複雜的特定。我喜歡 Paul Budnik 在他的 視頻詩 中的描述:

“我假設,某種形式的意識是物理結構的本質。當然,只有具有感覺、記憶和交流能力的物理實體才能描述他們的意識體驗,但其他有生命的甚至無生命的物質可能仍然具有某種形式直接體驗,儘管比我們體驗的要簡單得多:

  • 死於老年癡呆症的人的意識衰退何時完全結束?

  • 人類胚胎或胎兒的意識是什麼時候開始的?

最簡單的假設是它永遠不會開始或結束,而只會隨着大腦和神經系統的結構發生變化而發生變化。”

因此,他得出結論:

“如果意識是物理結構的本質,那麼研究所有可能結構的數學可能是洞察我們所面臨的問題以及我們如何應對它的來源[...]”(見本書在鏈接中)

// What new methods would help explore consciousness of other beings?

Mathematics, as the study of all possible structures, can help.

// "a river is not seen as alive"

The consciousness is not a binary -- it's a continuum -- so, even a river can be seen as having consciousness, even the atoms and molecules, and so on -- the entire world is a physical field, that is connected, intricate and particular. I like how Paul Budnik describes it in his video poem:

"I assume, that consciousness in some form is the essence of physical structure. Of course, only physical entities that have the capacities of sensation, memory and communication can describe their conscious experience, but other animate or even inanimate matter may still have some form of immediate experience, albeit much simpler than what we experience:

  • when does the fading consciousness of someone dying of alzheimer's end completely?

  • when does the consciousness begin in the developing human embry or fetus?

The simplest assumption is that it never begins or ends, but is only transformed as the structure of the brain and nervous system is transformed."

And so, he concludes, that:

"If consciousness is the essence of physical structure, then mathematics, which is the study of all possible structures, may be a source of insight into what we are facing and how we might deal with it [...]" (see the book in the link)


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