上級分類: 藝術海洋Human Relationships with Water

Oceans Language

How can oceans communicate between them and us, humans?

YAML 問題

Why should we, humans, have to understand the language of the ocean? There is one or many languages there? Each ocean have their own sounds, "words", tone of voice?


子分類: Sound of Living Systems.


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Good point [malü]! How can we relate to water if we don't understand their language? Hmm!

Have you explored Cymatics? (I know little about it myself, but it's about how water changes based on music/ sounds/ vibration/ frequency. So perhaps Oceans could be understood this way?



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Ruta,
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And by "Ocean", you mean -- life forms within the oceans? Or "Ocean" in general, as a body of water and all that's in it? From perspective of information theory and physics, anything that interacts -- communicates. E.g., body skin cells may be communicating with the bone marrow, etc., but we are not saying that it's super important for us to understand that language.

When it comes to oceans, obviously, they have many intelligent forms of life, but similarly, I would presume, that not every communication or language is worth learning -- some processes work best, when they are given freedom to play out without interaction with 3rd parties.

What I would find meaningful -- is the communication links between humans and the intelligence within the oceans...

// Each ocean have their own sounds, "words", tone of voice?

I'd suggest not over-anthropomorphize oceans -- they are full of diverse life, each with their own voice, and language, communications signals, and it's that -- where intelligence resides, not the body, just imagine a dolphin asking -- "Terrestrial Language"? What it could be? Do contitents speak? No -- it's the creatures that live on them speak.

Oh, btw.: I'd suggest watching a movie LIFE BEYOND II, to grasp of the aspects of life. A good movie.



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Mindey,

Thanks Ruta and Mindey!

I'm going to search about Cymatics and relate to Ocean, i mean Ocean in general, as a body of water and all that's in it.

Definitely want to explore this // the communication links between humans and the intelligence within the oceans...

Thanks for the suggestion of not over-anthropomorphize Oceans! And also for the movie, i'm going to watch it

Your feedback make me have new Qs: Wich / How is the communication system (or systems) that keep balance in Oceans? Are the same systems in Pacific, Atlantic, etc?

This puzzle start because i want to create a series of short talks between Pacific and Atlantic Oceans about climate change and how they are deeply afected, but thats again my antropocentric point of view trying to "put some voice" to the ocean. Any suggestion to avoid this bias is more than welcome!



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malü,

從我們的語音聊天 [malü] 轉發評論: 生活在海洋中的各種物種的聲音樣本可以重新混合成一首歌(就像音樂家 Pogo 重新混合電影中的樣本一樣)(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn-K7GIs62ENvdQe6ZZk9-w))。這將創造一種感覺海洋生物的體驗(音樂喚起一種感覺!),而不是試圖“理解”所有這些各種水生物的語言,而我們可能永遠不會這樣做。

另一方面,在我看來,人類通過分析、尋找一般模式來“閱讀”其他生命系統的語言。我想到的是,可以測量不同位置的水波並將其轉換爲頻率,然後轉換爲一些旋律或數據可視化或符號(如果我們進入視覺藝術方向)。再次,我想,更多的是通過互動探索海洋並與海洋建立聯繫,而不是尋找海洋如何說話的確切答案。

Resharing a comment from our voice chat [malü]: Sound samples of a variety of species living in the Oceans could be remixed into a song (just like a musician Pogo remixes samples from movies). This would create an experience of feeling the Ocean creatures (music evokes a feeling!), rather than trying to "understand" the languages of all these various water creatures, which we may never do.

On another hand, it seems to me that humans "read" the languages of other living systems through analysis, by looking for general patterns. What comes to mind is, water waves in different locations can be measured and turned into frequencies, and then into some melodies or data visualisations or symbols (if we go into visual arts direction). Again here, I guess, it's more about exploring and relating to the Oceans through interaction, rather than looking for the exact answer of how Oceans speak.



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