Ecosystem of Organizations

How can we spark a Ecosystem of organizations?

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The type of orgs involved in that Ecosystem can be non-profit, environmental, social awareness, among others for planetary systems wellbweing.


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非營利組織很好,但不應該限制組織的組織方式。然而,組織結構是公開展示的,有各種可衡量的、可用的衡量標準,僅供查看。所以,如果它製造炸彈,它就會廣爲人知。然後,有付費傳感器檢查這些儀表的質量和真實性,以及組織建設中使用的基礎知識。那些是開源代碼,簡單的功能。我喜歡稱他們爲詩人,而不是傳感器。他們檢查功能匹配名稱。然後,可以通過自動生成的描述來判斷組織。

Non profits are fine, but how the org is organized should not be constrained. However, the org structure is on public display, with all kinds of measurables, gauges available, for just looking. So, if it builds bombs, itll be well known. Then, there are paid sensors that check the quality and trueness of those gauges, and fundamentals used in org construction. Those are open source code, simple functions. Id like to call them poets, not sensors. They check for functionality matching names. Then, an org can be judged by auto generated descriptions.



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skihappy,

“組織”是指“公益組織”嗎?社會學中組織的概念相當廣泛,它包括從家庭到國家,以及介於兩者之間和之外的一切(任何一組交流互動和協作代理)。

頑固的資本家會告訴你,資本主義是關於一個組織生態系統的,這是正確的。因此,我認爲應該更具體地說明標題,更具體地說明這將是什麼樣的生態系統。

我的猜測是,您可能是關於相互支持和相互瞭解的非營利組織和公益組織,但是,正如第一段所述,“組織”的定義很寬泛。

And by "organizations", you mean "public benefit organizations"? The concept of organization in sociology is quite wide, and it includes from families to countries, and everything in between and beyond (any set of communicating interacting and collaborating agents).

A die-hard capitalist would tell you, that the capitalism is about an ecosystem of organizations, and be correct about it. So, I think it merits to be more specific about title, and more specific about what kind of ecosystem would that be.

My guess is that you're probably about mutually supportive and mutually aware non-profits and public benefit organizations, but, as said in the first paragraph "organization" has a broad definition.


澄清一下,我在談論社區模塊生態系統,nfts,形成自己的經濟系統。組織是通過組合生態系統中的其他類型的組織來構建的。它從非常基本的構建塊開始,即基礎。它的願景。但隨着我們構建它,它變得越來越清晰。完成並測試後,我將推出邏輯引擎。那就是組合的核心,邏輯系統,或者分類系統。然而你更喜歡。將會有一個低代碼開發系統。任何人都可以創建自定義 dao。而且,它應該與區塊鏈無關,任何 bc 都可以。需要社區努力來創建驅動程序,但是生態系統 csn 會分佈在許多 bc 實現中

To clarify, im talking about an ecosystem of community modules, nfts, forming an economic system of its own. Orgs are constructed by composing other types of orgs in the ecosystem. It starts with very basic building blocks, the fundamentals. Its a vision. But its getting more clear as we are building it. Ill roll out the logic engine when its finished and tested. Thats the core of composition, the logic system, or classification system. However you prefer. There will be a low code development system. Anyone can whip out a custom dao. And, it should be blockchain agnostic, any bc will do. Itll take community effort to create drivers, but then ecosystem csn be spread over a number of bc implementations



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skihappy,

對於任何一羣人來說,經常聚會最重要的是 - 空間(他們在哪裏見面)和遊戲(他們一起做什麼)。

For any group of people to gather often what matters is - space (where do they meet) and games (what do they do together).



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Ruta,
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任何組織、國家或當地俱樂部。我把它留給人們去創造他們需要的東西,但種子類型將面向具有大量自由度、流動性、開放性、大量制衡的結構。然後,這些品質將通過公共標準公開觀察,因此人們可以選擇使用哪種組織類型。我認爲我們可以就此放手,它會自我組織成自由的結構。我設想的設備和典型的反饋循環將使社區保持平衡。太多的自由也不是那麼好。關鍵是要讓社區團結在一起,永遠改變,防止它凍結成一個堅實的壓迫性晶體,但又不會太氣化,它只是通過消耗而產生,通過廣泛參與進行調節,在地方層面,以一種簡單直觀的方式。不是通過對某些遠程辦公室進行極其複雜和容易出錯的選舉,而是通過本地的、有機的、即時的。小的連續的、民主的決策過程,通過結構的每一層,分形傳播。關鍵是,每一層和分支都是自我決定和自我意識的,自給自足,但與鄰居失去聯繫。聯繫能走多遠是調整的問題,形成觀點。

Any org, a country or a local club. I leave it to folks to create what they need, but the seed types will be geared towards structure with lots of degrees of freedom, fluid, open, lots of checks and balances. Then, these qualities will be publically observable thru public gauges, so people can chose what kind of org type to use. I think we can let it go at that, and itll self organize into structure of freedom. I envision devices and typified feedback loops that will keep communities in ballance. Too much freedom is not all that good either. The point is to keep community together, forever changing tho, keep it from freezing into a solid oppressive crystal but not too gaseous where it simply evoporates thru attrition, regulated thru wide participation, on local level, in a simple intuitive way. Not thru horrandously complex and fallable elections to some remote offices, but lical, organic, immidiate. Small continuous , democratic decision making process, spread thru each level of structure, fractal.the key is, each level and branch is self determined and self aware, self suffocient, but losely connected to neighbours. How far connections go is matter of adjustments, forming perspective.



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skihappy,

讓我這樣說。我不知道所有這些標籤是什麼意思。我處理結構。有一種特定類型的自由結構,可以用自由度來衡量。正如我所見,我可以編寫一個測量儀,在量子系統中測量它。它的結構在節點功能上有很多重疊,允許可塑性。自由度是多少?這是動態的,應該由社區同意來衡量和調整。我們所需要的只是提供這些工具,用於測量和調整、儀表和刻度盤。幾行代碼,以及社區儀表板的一些反應組件。

Let me put this way. I dont know what all those labels mean. I deal with structure. Theres a specific type of structure of freedom, measurable as degrees of freedom. I can write a gauge that measires it in a quantum system, as i see it. Its structure with lots of overlap in node functionalities, allowing plasticity. How much degrees of freedom? That is dynamic, and should be measured and adjusted by community consent. All we need is to provide those tools, to measire and to adjust, gauges and dials. Few lines of code, and a few react components for community dashboard.


[skihappy] -- 據我所知,[malü] 在這裏寫了這個主題,並希望將其作爲一個社區,所以,這就是爲什麼有 o2oo.io/.malü 如果您對這樣的生態系統有什麼瞭解,也許最好提供有關它如何工作的廣泛描述?... 或者,“logicEngine”還沒有準備好嗎?

[skihappy] -- as I understand, [malü] wrote this topic here, and wants to have it as a community, and so, that's why there's o2oo.io/.malü, and meanwhile you, are talking on this thread about it as if the ecosystem were to be your idea, and you've got plans for it. Is there a backstory of this thread? Are you collaborating with [malü] on something? :) If you've got a picture of what such ecosystem would be, perhaps it would be good to provide an extensive descrition of how it would work?... or, is the "logicEngine" not yet ready for that?


這就是爲什麼我們需要土地來建設我們的文化。我看到積極地將積累的優勢和財富傳播到新興社區,在那裏一個成熟的社區被授予一個發展中的社區,從而分散了風險。發展中的關係和信任將轉化爲貨幣兌換率

Thats why we need land, to build our culture. I see actively spreading accumulated upside, wealth to budding communities, where an established community gets vested into a developing community, spreading the risk. The developing relationships and trust will translate to rate of currency exchange



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skihappy,

沒錯,它還沒準備好。這是我正在傳遞的願景。我想了一段時間。它的某些方面正在實施。但是,我希望其他人能接受它,我們可以一起開發實施。我不想成爲驅動力。但我想分享我的想法。僅此而已。我慢慢地朝着那個方向努力。

Exactly, its not ready. This is a vision im passing. Iv been thinking about it for a while. Some aspects of it are being implemented. But, i hope others will pick it up and we can develop implementation together. I dont wanna come off as the driving force. But i wanna share my thoughts. Thats all. Im slowly working my way in that direction.



    : Mindey
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skihappy,

這個線程是作爲一個問題開始的。這就是我對這個主題的想法。我很靈活。無意擁抱這個節目,但這個主題確實與我的作品產生了共鳴。我給一個預覽。我只能希望它會有用。需要很多人才能充分發揮它的潛力,可能是比我更聰明的人。

The thred was started as a question. Thats my thoughts on the subject. Im very flexible. Dont mean to hug the show, but the subject really resonates with my work. Im giving a preview. I only can hope itll be something of use. Itll take lots of people to bring it to full potential, prbly people smarter then me.



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jspoet,

經過測試後,很快就會有 api 文檔。但它的力量將隨着屏幕、用戶界面的發展而實現。我喜歡其他人在這方面進行合作

Ill have api docs soon, after its tested. But its power will be realized with development of screens, user interface. Id love for others to collaborate on that



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jspoet,

希望它成爲kostya 項目solarea 的一部分。因此,基礎設施已經部分存在。也許,我應該開始我自己的線程。簡直無法抗拒。當有更多要展示的時候,我會寫一篇文章。

Itll, hopefully, be part of kostya project, solarea. So, infrastructure already partially there. Perhaps, i shouldv started my own thread on it. Just could not resist. I will def do a write up when theres more to show.



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jspoet,

// 我喜歡其他人在這方面進行合作 //

[jspoet],非常期待您的 API 文檔和概念描述,當您談論您的項目時,很高興就您的項目主題進行討論。 ;) 而不是一般的“組織生態系統”主題。但是,很高興您分享了您希望組織生態系統採用的通用方向。

// Id love for others to collaborate on that //

[jspoet], definitely looking forward to your API docs, and the description of the concept, as you're talking about your project, it would be nice to have that discussion on the topic about your project. ;) rather than generic "Ecosystem of Organizations" topic. However, it's great that you're sharing the generic directions you'd like ecosystems of organizations to go to.



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Mindey,

當我們設計組織的生態系統時,我們可以從非線性網絡和生態學中學到什麼?

What can we learn from non-linear networks and ecology when we design ecosystems of organisations?



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Ruta,
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[jspoet] 分享您的項目更新永遠不會太早。我在 o2oo.io 上的大多數項目中分享了我的早期草稿 - 因爲我根據反饋進行迭代 :) 希望儘快看到您的項目更新!

實際上,通過在我們的項目中共享中間結果 - 這就是我們啓動生態系統的方式!當我們的項目遇到挑戰時 - 我們所有人都可以共同應對。

所以對於“組織的生態系統”這個問題,我要補充 - 一個生態系統需要促進成員(遊戲)之間的互動。

[jspoet] it's never too early to share your project updates. I share my early drafts in most of my projects here on o2oo.io - because I iterate based on feedback :) hope to see your project updates soon!

and actually, by sharing intermediary results in our projects - that's how we start an ecosystem! when our projects have challenges - all of us together can tackle them.

so to this question of "Ecosystem of Organisations" I'd add - an ecosystem needs to facilitate interaction between members (games).


會做。我真的很期待有一些切實的東西可以展示。 Iv 一開始就問這些問題。它真的擊中了家。這些討論非常有價值。我很實用,不過。我想構建解決方案,定義一些可衡量的、可交付的、可行的。

Will do. Im really looking forward having something tangeable to show. Iv started by asking exactly these questions. It really hits home. These discussions are extremely valuable. Im very practical, tho. I wanna build the solutions, define something measurable, deliverable, doable.



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skihappy,

這個謎題與分形在社會中的應用原型系統有關

This puzzle relates to Application of Fractals in Society , Prototyping Systems and Templating Micro Communities, the main point of which is - interactions between members create a (eco)system.

Here I wonder if a minimum number of ecosystem members matters? We can drive inspiration from tetrahedrons and how they construct with one another into larger stable structures.


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