# "*": "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wefindx/schema/master/method/oo-item.yaml" # "base:title": "0oo - Human superorganism" "og:title": "Human superorganism" "og:description": "If you look at our society from the sky you can see arteries which are roads which carry nutrients to shops. Where people buy things by exchanging money. Like cells exchange waste products with nutrients in the blood. The blood cells do their job without asking for anything in return. They take oxygen freely from the lung without having to provide anything in return. I reject game theory when it comes to society. I think cooperation could lead to a better use of resources. I think wealth aggregating at the top is a symptom of corruption in society's founding values. …" "og:image": "https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/28134655" "og:url": "/method/45001/" "base:css": "/static/css/bootstrap.min.9c25540d6272.css" "base:extra-css": "/static/css/base.57997aeac1df.css" "base:favicon": "/static/favicon.acaa334f0136.ico" "base:body_class": "" "layout:logo": "/static/0oo.8d2a8bbef612.svg" "layout:index": "/" "layout:menu": "/menu/" "layout:categories": "/intents/" "layout:ideas": "/methods/" "layout:projects": "/projects/" "layout:users": "/users/" "layout:about": "/about/" "layout:help": "/help/" "layout:bug_report": "https://github.com/wefindx/0oo" "layout:login": "/accounts/login/" "layout:light-off": "/darken/?darken=true" "layout:set-multilingual": "/mulang/?mulang=true" "layout:lang": "语言" "layout:set-language-post-action": "/i18n/setlang/" "layout:csrf-token": "aFdwTCSbmNysAaH0LxxIVg1wgAZaZ1dWnJCNWnCyuKSmMGHWgOhdXcRNASMsLS7s" "layout:input-next": "/method/45001/" "layout:languages": [{"code": "ja", "is-active": "false", "name": "日本語"}, {"code": "lt", "is-active": "false", "name": "Lietuviškai"}, {"code": "zh-hans", "is-active": "true", "name": "简体中文"}, {"code": "en", "is-active": "false", "name": "English"}, {"code": "ru", "is-active": "false", "name": "Русский"}, {"code": "oo", "is-active": "false", "name": "O;o,"}] # "item:parent:intents": [{"url": "/intent/1343/", "title": "Humans as Community"}] "item:title": "Human superorganism" "item:summary": "Our blood vessels carry food, oxygen and nutrients to our cells which each then do their work. The cells of our body are selfless - how do we create communities that are selfless" "item:voting": +2 "item:voting:add": "/admin/hlog/voting/add/?method=45001" "item:voting:csrf_token": "aFdwTCSbmNysAaH0LxxIVg1wgAZaZ1dWnJCNWnCyuKSmMGHWgOhdXcRNASMsLS7s" "item:voting:submit-value-option": {"selected": "[-]", "value": "-"} "item:voting:submit-value-option": {"selected": "[+]", "value": "+"} "item:base-administration": false "item:body": | If you look at our society from the sky you can see arteries which are roads which carry nutrients to shops. Where people buy things by exchanging money. Like cells exchange waste products with nutrients in the blood. The blood cells do their job without asking for anything in return. They take oxygen freely from the lung without having to provide anything in return. I reject game theory when it comes to society. I think cooperation could lead to a better use of resources. I think wealth aggregating at the top is a symptom of corruption in society's founding values. Society could be more efficient. People aren't assigned jobs based on their skills. They have to apply to them by themselves. It's a very inefficient process with much conflict of interest. Rarely is a relationship between employee and employer balanced. It's pretty one sided. I want society to evolve past a selfish individualistic approach into one that benefits everybody by being part of the superorganism. Every work should be rewarded - collecting litter, childcare should all be rewarded in kind. Muscles that work hard are rewarded with more blood and nutrients. But hard work in society does not involve reward - it usually results in more work to be done. Would someone do childcare for free if their needs were all met? Food, shelter, bills? If every human is trying to improve supply lines to make disbursement of shelter, nutrients more efficient. Money is an abstraction it should be used for good. If we look at the rates at which nature moves - we can say that nature moves very slowly. An animal only exerts effort when it needs to eat. Humankind on the other hand is always busy. It is an artificial business that stems from being dependent on money and 40 hour work weeks. Farmers don't need to work 40 hours a week to feed us all - nor does anybody else. It's only benefitting rich stockholders. In nature there is no concept of ownership. There is only territory. And it's temporary. For mating. For shelter. For nestlings. That's an artificial limitation on our freedom that keeps us docile and away from achieving independence. If independence is impossible in a world where all the land has a use then we need to get better at working for eachother. It means we need to redefine what contributing to society means. I don't think it means work a job. Perhaps everybody could have a score which is a balance of what one has contributed to the whole. It goes from negative value to positive value. If you have positive value you can redeem nutrients from society. If you have negative value then you cannot receive goods yet. There would be a work market that people could do which shifts your scale positive. Collecting litter. Working a water treatment plant. Stacking shelves in a shop. Giving a lift to a worker to work. Writing something. Creating a painting. All would improve your score because they benefit society. The concept of having a job will disappear. You can pick and choose what you want to do each week. You gain a large variety of skills. We don't reward the hardest jobs. They pay the least. The most desperate work them. We live in a hierarchical society and nobody does a thing about it. Everybody in the middle classes and above benefits from this arrangement because they don't have to get their hands dirty. Lying and cheating goes far and we don't punish it in our society. "item:source-date": "" "item:permalink": "/method/45001/?l=cn" "item:owner": "chronological" "item:created": "2021-08-07T13:18:49.391768" "item:ownerlink": "/user/198/chronological" # "item:link:items": "item:link:add": "/admin/hlog/link/add/?parent=45001" "item:project:items": "item:project:add": "/admin/hlog/project/add/?parent=45001" "item:comment:add": "/methods/addnote?parent=45001" "item:comment:add:csrf_token": "aFdwTCSbmNysAaH0LxxIVg1wgAZaZ1dWnJCNWnCyuKSmMGHWgOhdXcRNASMsLS7s" "item:comment:form": |
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  • 请,登录 # "item:comment:items": - "id": "a-70001" "mtrans": | 你得到的是我所说的时间银行。您会因投入社区的时间和帮助而获得社区积分。它和钱一样。让我们称 1 小时的工作为一美元,S1。然后,你可以说我社区中的每个人都以 50 美元/小时的价格工作。所以,你得到了 S1=50 美元的汇率。当然,它的简化。可以添加各种机制来调节经济。但是,重点是,金钱是出于善意,而不是像美元那样债务。这让一切变得不同。我们如何大规模地创造这样的经济是另一个很好的课题。这就是区块链的用途,一张白纸。我们都在忙于在区块链上创造替代经济。我们可以用几行代码创建自由、自我进化、自我管理的经济结构。尽管如此,如果一切都围绕着云计算,我们将创造一个泡沫。我们需要土地,在地面上建立社区,实际生产有形商品和服务,实际帮助某人。所以,我建议创建那些 bc orgs,daos,以支持这些公社的崇高道德目标。我建议将我们的组织专门用于向值得的社区分配土地赠款。让我们以划算的价格买回我们的星球,因为美元兑加密货币大跌。现在是时候在地球上扩展我们的泡沫了。 它将以理智和善良的泡泡开始,创造新文化的种子。我们的在线组织工具和经济结构将引导这个社区走向繁荣。繁荣将吸引他人,共产主义病毒将传播,文化将翻转,当我们学会分享和合作时,一切都以爱和人性的名义。通过我们在网络上的链接,我们将共同发展成为一个更聪明的集体。这就是为什么我是一名网络开发人员。 你有没有注意到,这场革命不是破坏,而是建立在以前的成功之上,包括所有人,包括特朗普 "text": | What you getting to is what i call timebanking. You get community credits for time vested into community, for doing favors. Its same as money. Lets call 1hr of work a shenanogins dollar, S1. Then, you can say everyone in my community works for $50/hr. So, you got exchange rate of S1=$50. Of course, its simplified. All kinda mechanisms can be added to regulate the economy. But, the point of it, Money is born out of kindness, not debt as dollar does. That makes all the difference. How do we create such economies on large scale is another good subject. Thats what blockchain is for, a blank slate. We are all busy creating alternative economies on blockchain. We can create economic structures of freedom, self evolving, self governing, with a few lines of code. Still, we would be creating a bubble if it all revolved on the cloud. We need land, to build communities on the ground, to actually produce tangible goods and services, to actually help someone. So, i propose to create those bc orgs, daos, with a high moral goal of supporting such communes. I propose dedicating our org to distribute land Grants to deserving communities. Lets buy our planet back, at a good deal, since dollar is crashing against crypto. Nows the time to extend o ur bubble over the planet. Itll start as bubbles of sanity and kindness, creating seeds of new culture. Our online org tools and economic structures will guide thise communes to prosperity. Prosperity will gravitate others and the commie virus will spread, and the culture will flip, as we learn to share and to collaborate, all in the name of love and humanity. We will collectively evolve into a smarter collective being, thru our links over the web. Thats why im a web dev. Did you notice, this revolution does not destroy, but builds on previous success, and includes everyone, including trump "owner": "skihappy" "ownerlink": "/user/14001/skihappy" "permalink": "/method/45001/?l=cn#a-70001" "created": "" - "id": "a-71001" "mtrans": | [时间顺序],虽然我对当前社会有类似的看法。顺便说一句,你在这里仍然没有方法,而是一个想要的状态,所以 [marked-as-intent]。关于“oo”的想法不仅仅是明亮的“想法”,而是回答“如何”方面的“方法”。成为超有机体一部分的想法很有吸引力,因为与细菌的竞争不同,组织的生长是由有机体赞助的——血液被授予,并被调节以支持超有机体的更高目标。 不过,只允许一个超有机体存在是有问题的。想象一个丛林,它不是一个生态系统,而是一个精心照料的计算机控制的花园。在这样的花园里,你可以自由玩耍,但你不能改变花园本身的设计方式,因为一切都将受到稳态控制——无论你打破或改变参数,都将重建——基于单一的蓝图。如果花园的居民现在无法编辑花园代码,他们将几乎注定生活在某种专制中。 有两个出口: (1) 允许多样化的园丁存在,并在它们之间移动。 (2) 允许居民修改花园的源代码。 (例如,有点像在代码开发中,带有拉取请求) (2)的做法会比较有限,因为随着园内居民越来越多,性格越来越多样化,越来越难达成一致,应该实施“拉请求”,人不开心。 (1) 方法更灵活,但每个花园需要更多资源(例如,如新的云计算系统)。 现在,还有另一个问题——你想成为某个特定超有机体的一部分,你想成为哪种特定超有机体的一部分——我认为这是一个文化-经济-意识形态问题。即使在今天,生活在不同国家的人可能有点像在不同的花园里,而且在 0oo.li 的背景下,我也在思考追求(描述它[这里](https://0oo.li/invite /0xE34A06A52C1b57CBEe4001f8dF6991BCAffDbE10/))。通常,文化必须为使命服务。初创公司通过员工选择保持效率,通常将员工视为家人,一些国家试图以这种方式看待其公民。 值得思考的是,什么样的文化可以让我们成为我们想成为的超级有机体。 "text": | [chronological], while I do share similar similar sentiments about the current society. Btw., you still have no method here, but rather, a desired state, so [marked-as-intent]. Ideas on "oo" are meant to be not merely bright "thoughts", but "methods" answering the "how" aspect. The thought of being part of the supraorganism is attractive, because unlike the competition of bacteria, the growth of a tissue, is sponsored by the organism -- the blood is granted, and modulated to support the higher goals of the superorganism. There is a problem with allowing only a single superorganism to exist though. Imagine a joungle that is not an ecosystem, but rather, a well-cared computer-controlled garden. Within such garden, you may have freedom to play, but you could not change how garden itself is designed, because everything would be homeostatically controlled -- whatever you break or shift parameters, would be rebuilt -- based on a single blueprint. If the inhabitatns of the garden now could not edit the garden code, they would be pretty much doomed to living in some kind of authocracy. There are two exits: (1) allowing the diverse gardents to exisat, and move between them. (2) allowing the inhabitatns to modeify the source code of the garden. (e.g., a bit like in code development, with pull-requests) The (2) approach would be quite limited, because with the increasing number of inhabitants within the garden, and diversity of personalities, it would be increasingly hard to have an agreement, which "pull-request" should be implemented, and there would be people unhappy. The (1) approach is more flexible, but requires more resources (e.g., like a new cloud computing system) for each garden. Now, there is another question of -- do you want to be part of a particular superorganism, and what kind of particular superorganism would you like to be part of -- and I think that is a cultural-economic-ideological question. Even today, people living in different countries can be a bit like in different gardens, and, in context of 0oo.li, I was thinking of the pursuits as well (described it [here](https://0oo.li/invite/0xE34A06A52C1b57CBEe4001f8dF6991BCAffDbE10/)). Often, culture has to serve the mission. Start-up companies remain efficient by employee selection, often thinking of employees as family, and some countries try to think of their citizens that way. It's worth thinking what kind of culture could make us into a superorganism that we'd like to be. "owner": "Mindey" "ownerlink": "/user/147/Mindey" "permalink": "/method/45001/?l=cn#a-71001" "created": "" - "id": "a-72001" "mtrans": | 我想根据我同意的价值观被组织或分配一个超级有机体。我会把家搬到相信同样事情的人那里。如果每个人都这样做,我们就可以拥有人们相信相同事物的地区。就像一个社区希望从委员会而不是中央政府获得 UBI。布里斯托尔在英国有自己的货币——它与英镑平行。 "text": | I want to be organised or assigned a superorganism based on the values that I agree to. I would move homes towards people who believe the same things. If everybody did this, we could have regions where people believed the same things. Like a neighbourhood that wants UBI from the council rather than from central government. Bristol has its own currency in the UK - it is paralell to the pound. "owner": "chronological" "ownerlink": "/user/198/chronological" "permalink": "/method/45001/?l=cn#a-72001" "created": "" - "id": "a-73001" "mtrans": | 这是另一种看待泡菜的方式。我们的社会、经济结构是一张图表,描绘了人和组织之间的关系和联系。图有一个非常酷的特性。您可以通过添加新节点和链接将它们分层。只需添加新结构即可打破旧结构。而且,...这就是我建议做的,在现有图的基础上构建新图,我破坏任何东西,使用相同的人,可能添加新的并行组织,重用旧的,在个人的基础上。人们将决定如何。我们需要做的就是提供工具,非常重要的是,关键是传递愿景。只是工具不能胜任。我们需要激励、点燃那团火、播下种子、摒弃贪婪、彼此相爱。不难,大家都准备好了。而且,我们并不特别。到处都开始着火了。我们是众多中的一员,我们希望合并,速度超快,速度比控制狂可能会吓坏。 "text": | Heres another way to look at that pickle. Our society, economic structure , is a graph, of relationships, links between people and orgs. Graphs have a really cool property. You can layer them up, by adding new nodes and links. Just adding new structure wo breaking the old one. And,... thats what i propose to do, to build new graph on top of existing one, wo breaking anything, using same people, maybe adding new parallel orgs, reusing the old ones, on individual basis. The people gonna decide how. All we need to do is provide the tools and, very important, the key, pass the vision. Just the tools not gonna do the job. We need to inspire, to light that fire, to plant the seed, to lose the greed, to love each other. Its not hard, everyone is ready. And, we are not special. That fire is getting started everywhere. We are one of many, and we honna merge, super quick, faster then control freaks can freak out. "owner": "skihappy" "ownerlink": "/user/14001/skihappy" "permalink": "/method/45001/?l=cn#a-73001" "created": "" "base:js": "/static/js/base.c7357c06cc89.js"