Ecosystem of communities

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A network of communities, each governed as a dao, mutually vested, regulated thru nft contracts, neighbor helping neighbor, building common economy as interlinked net of economies

YAML 想法

Suppose, we have a set of tools for creating a typical DAO of a community in the net. Also, we have tools to create monetary system, trade, organize work, collect funds for public projects, do the governance. The rules and bylaws are part of an NFT contract. But, first of all, how would the land be acquired? That can be done by creating a coin, raising the money.

How would everyone be vested and work be done to build the commune?

By the rules of a DAO formed around the community. Heres one scenario proposed. A coin is issued based on square footage of the land. Stakeholders invest either money or promise, a contract, to perform work in the future. When enough money raised, land is acquired, and work begins. As workers fulfill their contracts, they gain shares, and the original investor shares get diluted, but the land value grows, the coin appreciates and it all balances out, and hopefully better then that. In meantime, community uses online tools to manage the money and govern itself.

Easier said then done. Its hard to raise money. Any ideas?

Yes. Suppose, there are other communities, in a supportive net, that are willing to invest into the budding community. Specifically, another community would vest funds to buy enough coins for land purchase.

Why?

Many reasons. The main one is the common culture. The other one, its a nobble deed. But its better then that. The risk to each member of a donor community is spread out. The decisions are made communally, so common sense prevails to minimize risks even further. But theres even better upside. Its the common prosperity and freedom. As the new community prospers, supported by interested and vested neighbors, and workers fulfill their work contracts, the coin grows. Workers gain shares and ownership, donors, most likely, gain upside on their investment. Besides, that investment is always backed by the land value. As their shares get diluted by workers shares, the share value grows. Everything should always balance out, with risks spread out, and responsibility shared.

The real motivation is freedom!!!

So, now everyone in both communities has shares and coins to go along with it. How would they use those shares? They can come and live on that land, they can trade it for goods and services, or they can get cash, dollars or some other coin.
But imagine, there are many communities in the network, each with its own economy and rate of exchange. SO, anyone can trade shares in one community for shares in another one , on the other side of the globe, and go live there for a while, and learn a few things. Perhaps someone got tired of living on the beach windsurfing and decides to go ski in the mountains. NO PROBLEM. Safe travels, dont have to bring much, we got you covered. Oh yeah, the network has a travel fund if help is needed.

In closing, id like to say the growing bubble of crypto currency is not sustainable without some tangible goods and services produced on the ground. All activity on the cloud is overhead. We have to support and build economies and communities on the ground. Might as well build them based on the culture of sharing and freedom.

What would it take to come true?

Its a scalable, self organizing structure. Once its seeded,itll have life of its own. Unstoppable, outside of control of any control freak. The key is to provide the right tools to get it started, besides planting the spark of an idea, but I think that spark been striked. What we have to do is build supporting tools, and get a few experiments going as proof of concept. The tools should include types of DAO contracts, for typical use cases. These can be traded on the blockchain and developed by community. Still, a few seeds are needed. There must be organizational tools to empower these budding communities to create and run their economies, to create monetary systems, systems of responsibilities and governance. I envision types of organizations floating on the blockchain as an ecosystem supporting the net. Any reasonably intelligent person would be able to compose an organization for his use case out of types supplied by other communities, proven and tested, without any coding experience. Everyone needs a voting or decision making system, a community forum or other comm tools, tasking system, monetary system. Theres a lot of commonality.

How would communities keep from turning into rigid corp like hierarchical organizations?

Its a cultural thing. Yes, many people dont have any other experience but hierarchical institutions. However, the tools we would provide would be geared towards flat grassroot types. Im also convinced that tools can be built to steer communities towards the happy middle. Its a dynamic balance, that should be maintained by each community, thru a democratic process. In general, people like freedom,given a chance. We will give them that chance. I simply trust the good side over evil.

So, lets get busy.

Its a lot of work, organizing, connecting, learning, coding, physically building, but mostly loving and living, in freedom.

Heres a sample of a proposed DAO contract for a single community:

INTRO The semi-sentient DA👾 uses land ownership and contract law to slowly gain control of all the vertically-integrated supply-chains required to host itself and all the workers it needs to survive and propagate.

BOOT The DA👾 searches for Land suitable to build permacultured eco-villages. The DA👾 mints fungible 1 earthChange Coin for each ft² of Land. The DA👾 then auctions those earthChange to buy that Land. The total supply of earthChange is limited by ft² of Land. earthChange does not represent Land Ownership!

START The DA👾 now issues Product Tickets as claims against Future Production. The DA👾 then auctions Product Tickets for Work Contract signatures.

RUN You gain Land Ownership as you fulfill Work Contracts. Land Ownership preallocates Future Production to you.

GROW Owners propose new Product Tickets to govern Future Production. Owners selling surplus should 'reflect' some profit to those users as land ownership.

FORK Subgroups must be able to divide Land (draw borders) to localize control. Individuals must be able to split from groups by choosing other Land(?)




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土地標記化的想法並不是很新(見底部的鏈接)。話雖如此,我對人們會高興地分享它的樂觀態度表示讚賞。

// 所以,任何人都可以用一個社區的股份換取地球另一端另一個社區的股份,然後去那裏住一段時間,學習一些東西。

現在已經很晚了,但是——那些沒有土地的人,比如[時間順序]提到的那些人呢?他們將如何跳上這種洲際土地共享的樂趣?

明天醒來時,我會嘗試更深入地研究,到那時,也許其他人會這樣做。 :) 繼續思考。 ^^

The idea of land tokenization isn't very new (see the link at the bottom). That said, I applaud the optimism that people will share it with joy.

// SO, anyone can trade shares in one community for shares in another one , on the other side of the globe, and go live there for a while, and learn a few things.

This is very late here, but -- what about all those people, like [chronological] mentioned, those without land? How would they jump onto this intercontinental land-sharing joy?

I'll try to look deeper when I wake up tomorrow, by then, maybe others will. :) Keep thinking. ^^


順便說一句,並非每個社區都必須是土地所有者。有些可以是分佈式數字戰士類型。這些是最有可能在實地培育第一批初創公司的人。只是一個想法。我知道現在有許多公社試圖成立。他們需要幫助。

btw, not every community has to be a land owner. Some can be distributed, digital warrior types. Those are the most likely to seed first startups on the ground. Just a thought. I know of many communes trying to form right now. They need help.



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skihappy,

我沒有所有的答案,只有一個願景。沒有人知道所有的答案。前途一片迷茫。它很可能以不同的方式發展。是的,我確定這不是全新的想法。那又怎樣?讓我們找到那些人並進行合作。越結婚越多。這就是整個想法,好的想法會像野火一樣傳播,正是因爲每個人都有相同的想法。缺少的是真正的夢想家的起始種子。真正的夢想家是那些創造結構的人,然後其他夢想家填充結構並進化它。我提到的工具是需要的。這是事實。人們想要建立公社。這是事實。他們沒有一種簡單的方法來創建在線組織結構,其昂貴且勞動密集。一旦我們有了幫助他們的工具,所有的煙花都會開始發生。這只是一種情況。是的,每個地區都會有所不同。我們可以把它想得太多,並計劃到最小的細節,而按照那個計劃,這一切都不會發生。我們需要構建這些工具。這就是我所知道的。我們需要不是在真空中構建這些工具,而是針對地面上的特定用例,但我們可以輕鬆地從基礎開始,然後在應用程序中進行調整。

I dont have all the answers, just a vision. No one has all the answers. Future is murky. Itll most likely develop in a different way. Yes, im sure its not entirely new idea. So what? Lets find those folks and collaborate. The more the marrier. Thats the whole idea, good ideas spread like wilfire precisely cos everyone has the same idea. Whats missing is the starting seed, by the true dreamers. The true dreamers are those that create the structure, then other dreamers populate the structure and evolve it. The tools i mentioned are needed. Thats a fact. People want to build communes. Thats a fact. They dont have an easy way to create online org structure, its expensive and labor intensive. Once we have tools to help them, all kinda fireworks will start happening. This is just one scenario. Yeah, itll be different,in each locale. We can overthink it to death and plan to smallest detail, and none of it gonna happen by that plan. We need to build those tools. Thats all I know. And we need to build those tools not in a vacuum, but for specific use cases on the ground, but we can easily start up on the basics, then adjust in applications.


那些沒有土地的人,比如[按時間順序]提到的那些人呢?他們將如何跳上這種洲際土地共享的樂趣?

他們會爲股份工作,在土地上生活。當然,任何人都會受到歡迎,但預計它們會有用。和現在加入公社沒什麼不同。你去那裏,結識人。他們決定是否喜歡你。但是,如果我們有一個共同的貨幣體系,人們通過做有用的事情獲得積分,並以在線簽名的方式獲得聲譽,那麼這個過程就會變得容易得多,我們也會更加自由。從某種意義上說,美元還不錯,它被普遍接受。這將創造同樣的自由,但社區作爲獎勵添加。 此外,人們會保護自己的名譽,因爲那是他們通向自由的門票。那比錢更值錢。錢可以買一張去異國他鄉的普通票,但你會在一兩週內感到無聊。作爲貴賓來加入一個充滿活力的社區會更好。金錢買不到那個。你的聲譽確實如此。不再有犯罪和欺騙。不值得。

what about all those people, like [chronological] mentioned, those without land? How would they jump onto this intercontinental land-sharing joy?

They would work for shares,to live on the land. Of course, anyone would be welcome, but they would be expected to be useful. Its not different then joining a commune right now. You go there, get to know folks. They decide if they like you or not. But, if we have a common monetary system, and people earn credits for doing useful stuff, and carry reputation with them as online signature, the process will become much easier, and we will be much freer. Dollar is kinda nice in a sense its so universally accepted. This will create the same kinda freedom, but community added as a bonus. Also,people will protect their reputation, for thats their ticket to freedom. Thats more valuable then money. Money might buy a plain ticket to exotic place,but youll get bored in a week or two. Much better to come and join a vibrant community as an honored guest. Money does not buy that. Your reputation does. No more crime and cheating. Not worth it.


還有另一件事。當人們創建這些 DAO 和組織時,它們幾乎沒有共同點,並且很難連接到任何類型的網絡中。我們真的需要一些通用的工具來進行更大規模的組織。它現在不可擴展。那是個問題。

And another thing. When people do create these DAOs and orgs, they have little commonality and hard to link into a net of any kind. We really need some common tools,to organize on larger scale. Its not scalable right now. Thats a problem.


還有一個想法。人們最受崇高的道德目標的激勵。自由、民主、社區、分享。那引起共鳴。我建議強調這一點,而不是潛在的貨幣收益。要創建我所看到的網絡,我們需要用我們的願景來激勵。然後我們通過工具、路線圖和示例進行授權。路線圖是否會在其他方向重新鋪設幾乎無關緊要。有很多方法可以去。但我們必須朝着正確的方向前進。我們可以開始一些事情,其他人會完成。

yet another thought. People are best motivated by high moral goals. Freedom, democracy, community, sharing. That resonates. I propose to emphasise that,over potential monetary gaines. To create networks I see, we need to enspire with our visions. Then we empower by tools and roadmaps and examples. It almost does not matter if the roadmap will be repaved in some other direction. There are many ways to go. But we have to go in the general right direction. We can get something started, others will finish.


這是另一個想法。一個人們可以介紹他們的新興社區和現有社區的地方,以一種有點像博客的方式,生活日記的風格,以吸引捐助者和投資者。它可以是另一種工具。一天之內創建您的 DAO、您的組織結構並廣爲人知。完成。一羣朋友可以組織起來幫助當地無家可歸的人或其他一些需要的社區服務,並獲得支持並創建社區,加入全球網絡,並在附近實際建立一個村莊。這個詞會傳播,它會起飛。首先,我們可以解決無家可歸的問題。 實際上,我有一種強烈的感覺,到最後一個流浪者被安置時,包括全球變暖在內的許多其他問題都會得到解決。

heres another idea. A place where people can introduce their budding and existing communities,in a bloging kinda way, live diary style, to attract donors and investors. It can be another tool. Create your DAO, your org structure, and get known, all in one day. Done. A group of friends can get organized around helping local homeless folks or some other needed community service, and get supported and create a community, and join a global net, and actually build a village close by. The word will spread and itll take off. We can solve homeless problem, for starters. Actually, i have a strong feeling, by the time last homeless is housed, many other issues, including global warming, will be solved.


關於標題令牌的有趣閱讀。信息量很大。謝謝。我不確定它與這裏的相關性。當然,土地所有權將以某種方式合法登記。也許,這些成員股份可以註冊爲部分所有權代幣。也許,它可以是政府記錄保存之外的另一層,僅在社區或更廣泛的社區網絡內有效。我不確定它是否需要得到政府的認可。組織可以在當局註冊爲官方土地所有者。我不知道。這些都是合法的。有人可以弄清楚。我會繼續寫我的代碼。重要的是,一旦我們弄清楚了,我們可以將其編碼爲一種類型,網絡中的每個人都可以使用它。

interesting read about title tokens. Very informative. Thanks. Im not sure how relevant it is to here. Of course land titles will be registered legally somehow. Maybe, those member shares can be registered as partial ownership tokens. Maybe, it can be another layer outside of gov record keeping, valid only within the community, or wider community net. Im not sure it needs to be recognized by government.An org can be registered with authorities as official land owner. I dont know. Those are legalities. Someone can figure it out. Ill just keep writing my code. Whats important, once we figure it out, we can code it as a type and everyone in the network can use it.


是的,沒有辦法繞過州。我很想知道集體成員如何確保他們的所有權。 Asya,她捐贈了那個 DAO 樣本,說他們將組建一個土地信託,並簽署社區成員作爲受託人。我不知道是否可以記錄共享,但在某些時候我們將不得不開始保存我們的記錄,前提是狀態滿意。我認爲我的無知和缺乏興趣。 另外,每個國家都會有所不同。這就是爲什麼網絡是有幫助的。將有資源來解決這些令人頭痛的問題,社區提供的典型解決方案,以代碼和食譜的形式,以及律師。

yes, theres no way around the state. Id love to know how members of the collective be assured of their ownership right. Asya, she donated that DAO sample, says they will form a land trust and sign community members as trustees. I dont know if shares can be recorded, but at some point we would have to start keeping our records,provided the state is satisfied. I rest my case for ignorance and lack of interest. Also, itll be different in each country. Thats why a network is helpful. There will be resources to solve these headaches, typical solutions provide by community, in form of code and recipes, and lawyers.


嗯,將字典附加到一個想法上會很有幫助,即 DAO、NFT 和描述中使用的其他技術術語的含義。思考 - 我想與一些關心解決無家可歸和住房問題的朋友分享這個想法,但他們不知道可用的技術解決方案。所以爲了讓不同的人在同一頁面上,技術術語的總結會很有幫助。 :)

Hmm it'd be helpful to attach a dictionary to an idea, i.e. the meanings of DAO, NFT and other technical terms used in the description. Thinking - I'd like to share this idea with some of my friends who care about solving a problem of homelessness and housing, but they wouldn't be aware of technical solutions available. So to bring diverse people on the same page, a summary of technical jargon would be so helpful. :)



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Ruta,

// 將字典附加到一個想法會很有幫助

這是一個好主意——每個帖子的詞彙表,用戶用他們的話來定義他們的意思……因爲,我的感覺是,有些人在談論他們從一個或其他詞的上下文中不太在意時,並立即假設其他人會理解他們的意思。不過,我喜歡爲此使用超鏈接:如果您認爲某個詞或其他詞會產生歧義——只需超鏈接到定義即可。超文本就是爲此而發明的。

// it'd be helpful to attach a dictionary to an idea

It's a great idea -- vocabularies per post, where users define what they mean with their words... because, my sense is that some people talk without much care what context they had taken one or other word from, and immediately assuming that others will understand them for what they meant. Though, I like to use hyperlinks for that: if you think one or other word will be ambiguous -- just hyperlink to definition. Hypertext was invented for that.



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Mindey,

關於詞彙表和鏈接的好主意。很多時候,當你完成詞彙表時,已經沒有多少要描述的了。我可以在這裏使用 gfm 格式嗎?我可以在 ssme doc 內部鏈接,並有一個詞彙表部分嗎?我不這樣做只是爲了不方便。感謝您的建議。

Good idea about glossaries and links. A lot of times, by the time you done with glossary, not much left to describe. Can i use gfm format here. Can i link inside ssme doc, and have a glossary section? I dont do it simply for inconvenience. Thanks for suggestions.



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skihappy,

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