Chain of necessity or chain of distribution

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In a group effort there are people who contribute more than others - there are those who contribute time and those who contribute money. There are others who do one off help. We should reward all these people fairly.

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Imagine a community has a community farm or kitchen. The profit - the food or produce should be distributed fairly.

Everyone who contributes should receive a reward for their efforts. The people who do the majority of the work should receive the lion's share. The manual labourers in the kitchen or farm should receive the most.

We need some way to vote on the distribution of gains. A project can only succeed if it has capital owners and workers. They are both necessary for success. But the workers do more of the work.

This is like a proportional vote except we vote on percentages for returns.

I don't think Blockchain or contracts solves this problem.



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也許, bc 可以成爲解決方案的一部分。它可以作爲託管服務,受合同監管。在每個人都同意之前,不會釋放代幣。它只是一個公正的仲裁員。它的服務的確切使用方式是一個不同的主題,但它肯定會在外面使用人和其他結構。我同意 bc 本身不是解決方案,但它可以是解決方案的一部分。一組典型的解決方案可供社區遵循。

Perhaps, bc can be part of a solution. It can serve as an escrow service, regulated by contract. The tokens are not released till everyone is in agreement. It's just an impartial arbitrator. Exactly how it's services are used is a different subject, but it def would take humans and additional structure outside. I agree that by itself bc is not the solution, but it can be a part of solution. A set of typical solutions can be available to communities to follow.


我想知道對這件事投票的公式是否是每個人百分比的平均值。

有人說 40% 另一個人說 60% 應該給錢的貢獻者。平均值爲 50%。

對每個貢獻者重複。

I wonder if the formula for voting on this thing is an average of everybody's percentages.

Someone says 40% another person says 60% should go to the money contributors. The average is 50%.

Repeat for each contributor.


人們可以設想兩種粗略的工作類別,創造性工作和非創造性的重複性勞動。創造性工作導致設計新事物。一旦創建,新的人工製品就可以被其他人重複使用。非創造性的、重複的勞動包括重複一項任務以實現一些有用的目標,但不會產生任何新的想法、技術、服務或藝術形式。爲了當今社會的運轉,兩者都是必需的。我們的文化更重視創造性工作,體現在專利、商業祕密和競爭優勢上。獨角獸是基於一個創造性的新想法創建的,而工廠工人則因爲一遍又一遍地重複相同的任務而獲得少量工資。與重複性任務相比,新想法的價值是什麼?也許智能機器人有一天會消除大多數形式的人類勞動,隨着自動化程度的提高,我們正在接近這個極限。我們如何重新思考我們的獎勵制度,使其成爲一個公平的社會,而不是更加不平等的社會?在我看來,需要有一個普遍的基本收入來保證人類福祉的最低水平,並且可以獎勵創意人員,但不能過度,因爲我們一再證明富人缺乏生活在其中的情感成熟度行星邊界。例如,奢侈品的整個概念,其設計具有高碳足跡並旨在吸引消費精英,無非是加劇了不平等並破壞了我們的生態系統。人們應該因爲他們的創造力而獲得獎勵,但也應該因爲他們花時間做非創造性的工作來造福他人。畢竟,時間是最寶貴的商品,如果我們用它的一部分來完成一項必要但無法完成的任務,我們應該因爲放棄一部分生活而受到認可......這就是我們所做的我們從事一份不令人滿意的工作,只是支付賬單。

One can conceive of two rough categories of work, creative work and noncreative, repetitive labor. Creative work results in the design of something new. Once created, that new artefact can be reused by others. Noncreative, repetitive labor consists of repeating a task in order to achieve some goal that is useful, but does not result in any new ideas, technologies, service or art form. Both are needed in order for present day society to operate. Creative work is valued more by our culture, reflected in patents, trade secrets and competitive advantages. Unicorns are created based on a creative new idea, while factory worker receives a small wage for their repeating the same task over and over. What is the value of new ideas compared to repetitive tasks? Perhaps intelligent robots will one day eliminate most forms of human labor, and as automation increases, we are approaching that limit. How do we rethink our system of rewards to be a fair society and not one of even greater inequality? It would seem to me that there needs to be a universal basic income that guarantees a minimum level of human wellbeing, and creatives can be rewarded, but not excessively as we have proven over and over again that the wealthy lack the emotional maturity to live within planetary boundaries. For example, the entire notion of luxury goods, that are high carbon footprint by design and designed to appeal to the consumerist elite does nothing more than reinforce inequality and degrade our ecosystems. People should be rewarded for their creativity but also for giving their time doing noncreative work to benefit others. After all, time is the most precious commodity of all, and if we use part of it to do a necessary but unfulfilling task, we deserve to be recognized for giving away a part of our life....which is what we do when we work at an unfulfilling job that just pays the bills.


我更看重非創造性的工作而不是創造性的工作。 沒有非創造性的工作,我們就沒有水、食物或電子產品。

至少沒有創意,我們仍然會有食物和水。

創造性的工作比艱苦的工作更容易。

I value the noncreative work more than creative work. Without the noncreative work we wouldn't have water, food or electronics.

At least without creatives we would still have food and water.

Creative work is easier than hard labour.



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