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@ 膠囊酒店式通用蜂巢車

當我意識到在日本不斷清潔表面是爲了防止細菌在潮溼空氣中繁殖而進行的自我平衡,而不僅僅是一種審美偏好時,我意識到這些蜂巢膠囊可以解決的另一個問題:使空氣大陸性氣候-膠囊內部乾燥會自動增加公共衛生。

When I realize that the incessant cleaning of surfaces in Japan is a homeostatic fight against proliferation of bacteria in humid air, rather than just an aesthetic preference, it makes me realize another problem that these hive capsules would solve: making the air continental-climate-dry inside the capsules would automatically increase the public hyghiene.

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Mindey

@ 膠囊酒店式通用蜂巢車

你能想到像飛機、火車這樣移動膠囊的改編嗎,膠囊本身有自動駕駛汽車的功能,我認爲這是一個必須的功能,可以讓你自由探索世界。

カプセルを移動している飛行機、電車などの適応も考えられますか、カプセル自體は、自動運転車機能があって、自由に世界を探検出來るのは必修機能だと思います。

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Mindey

@ URL powered computer

我之所以想到這個是因爲我最近創建了這個 Hacker News 評論

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34614497

The reason why I thought of this is because I recently created this Hacker News Comment

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34614497#34618834

People upvoted me.

Why isn't everything on a computer as easy as going to a website?

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chronological

@ URL powered computer

我想——今天,我們經常加載整個應用程序,就像打開一個網站一樣。例如,打開 GMail,您將加載整個應用程序。固定應用程序,或用瀏覽器的 Electron 實例包裝它們,是一件顯而易見的事情,人們也這樣做了。但是,您在這裏展示的是較低級別的內容,我喜歡它。操作系統的協議,如 config;// 看起來很整潔!我認爲它對組織系統資源很有用。

I thought -- today, we're often loading the whole app, as a matter of opening a website. E.g., open GMail, and you're loading an entire app. Pinning apps, or wrapping them with Electron instances of browser, was an obvious thing, and people do that. However, what you're presenting here, is a lower level, and I like it. The protocol, like config;// for the OS looks neat! I see it being useful for organizing system resources.

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Mindey

@ Multithreaded programming language, compiler and interpreter

項目回購協議的鏈接比摘要更能說明問題。讓我看看。

The link to the project's repo is telling more than the summary. Let me see.

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Mindey

@ Simple Brainwave Modulation Prototype App

歡迎回來,[Niamh]!我很驚訝您的項目與 Infinity 社區的匹配程度如此之高,而且我實際上對它可以創造的認知優勢很感興趣。例如,我發現自己在某些狀態下真的很有創意,也許是 Theta 波(?),我很好奇使用科學部分描述的工具自我調節大腦的靈活性。

當你說“如果我有應用程序構建技能,我會自己做。相反,我有心理學、神經科學背景......”——這給人的印象是你已經使用一些工具或環境科學地玩過這些聲音調製,您發現它可以工作的地方。如果是這樣,你能詳細說明一下嗎?

我認爲,最簡單的方法可能是從基於 JavaScript 的網頁開始(例如 this,使用 pizzicato.js 庫),其中人們可以與聲音互動。

Welcome back, [Niamh]! I'm quite surprised how good a match is your project to the Infinity community, and I'm practically interested in the cognitive benefits it could create. For example, I find myself really innovative in certain states, perhaps it's Theta waves (?), and I'd be curious about flexibilities in self-modulating one's brain with a tool like you described in the science section.

When you say "I would do it myself if I had app building skills. Instead, I have a background in psychology, neuroscience .." -- it makes an impression that you had already played scientifically with these sound modulations using some tools or environments, where you had found that to work. If so, could you elaborate on that?

I think, the simplest approach could be to start with something like JavaScript-based web page (such as this one, using the pizzicato.js library), where people could interact with sounds.

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Mindey

@ Imaginary auction shop

這個想法讓我想起了衆籌平臺上的一些項目。如果衆籌達到/超過設定的財務目標,他們只會取得/進展到下一階段。如果做不到這一點,資助者就會拿回他們的錢,而項目要麼沒有進展,要麼不得不去其他地方籌集資金。

This idea reminds me of some projects on crowdfunding platforms. They only get made / progress to the next stage if the crowdfunding reaches/surpasses a set financial target. Failing that, the funders get their money back and the project either doesn't progress or has to go elsewhere to raise funds.

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Niamhnab

@ 0 > oo

關於 Infinity 項目,當談到英文版 Infinity 時,您最喜歡這些領域中的哪一個?

https://mindey.com/survey/start/05421959-c745-445b-ae23-02fe0ab28746

我的小調查:)

Regarding Infinity project, which of these domains do you like most, when it comes to English version of Infinity?

https://mindey.com/survey/start/05421959-c745-445b-ae23-02fe0ab28746

My little survey :)

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Mindey

@ Personalized Diet

我想,使用神經鏈接,我們可以自動收集有關食物引起的幸福感變化的數據,從字面上讀取來自相應大腦區域的信號。

I guess, using neuralink, we could automate that collection of data about food-induced variations of well-being, quite literally reading off the signals from corresponding brain regions.

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Mindey

@ Personalized Diet

// 如何發現對每個人有益的食物?

流行的答案:“有一個應用程序”。有趣的是,製作一個應用程序是列出一個或幾個列表,並要求人們填寫它們:進行統計(依賴性分析)會自動發現什麼對誰有好處。參與研究的人越多,越快樂。

但是,大多數人沒有時間爲此或那個編寫另一個應用程序。只有食物數據並不能完全解決個人福祉的更高問題。對此的通用解決方案是傳感器、調度程序和數據庫技術。

我只是想知道哪些傳感器可以感覺到我們身體的不適,例如 secchi 磁盤 如何測量湖泊和海洋的透明度。我們可以自動測量實際食物引起的舒適感或不適感,這將大大簡化此類數據收集的過程......

// How to discover what foods are good for each individual?

The popular answer: "there's an app for that". The funny thing is, making an app is making a list or a few of them, and asking people to fill them: doing the stats (dependence analysis) auto-discovers what's good for whom. The more participants in the study, the merrier.

However, most people don't have time for writing yet another app for this or that. Only food data won't fully solve the higher problem of individual well-being. Generic solution for this is sensors, schedulers, and database technology.

I just wonder what sensors could feel our discomfort of our bodies, like how a secchi disk measured transparency of lakes and oceans. Of we could measure the actual food-induced sense of comfort or discomfort automatically, it would very much ease the process of such data collection...

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Mindey

@ Investomart

零售買家(消費者)每天購買生產者股票,就像他們喫/消費一樣頻繁,似乎不是很可持續,因爲儘管股票在公開市場上可供任何人購買,但它們實際上是相對與零售貿易量相比,稀缺商品。

但是,如果上述多付的款項不僅用於收購生產特定零售產品的生產商的股票,還包括爲該產品的製造做出貢獻的上游供應鏈公司的股票,或者甚至是生產同等產品的一組生產商的股票。產品,那麼這肯定會更可持續。

隨着時間的推移,我當然想試試這個想法。這對消費者來說是一個不費吹灰之力的額外價值:每當您購買普通消費品時,都會自動購買生產商的股票。實現這種事情可能是最直接的,通過收購一家對沖基金和一家受歡迎的在線零售商,並滿足所有法律要求,然後爲所有購物用戶創建對沖基金的投資賬戶,並將投資資金分享給對沖基金。這種對沖基金的投資操作很容易實現自動化,因爲股票購買完全是確定性的,由零售購買決定決定。

Retail buyers (consumers) buying out the producer stocks on a daily basis, as frequently as they eat/consume, does not seem to be very sustainable, because, although stocks are on the public markets for anyone to buy, they are actually a relatively scarce commodity, compared to the volume of retail trade.

However, if the said overpay would go to acquire stocks of not only the producer making the specific retail product, but also the stocks of the upstream supply chain companies contributing to the making of the said product, or, even the set of producers making equivalent products, then this would surely be more sustainable.

With time, I certainly would like to try that this idea. It's a no-brainer extra value to the consumer: shop for stocks of producers automatically, whenever you shop for ordinary consumer goods. Realizing this sort of thing would probably be most straightforward by acquiring a hedge fund, and a popular online retailer, with all the legal requirements already satisfied, then creating investment accounts with the hedge fund for all the shopping users, and sharing the investment money with the hedge fund. Such hedge fund's investing operations would be quite easy to automate, because the buying of stocks would be entirely deterministic, determined by the retail purchasing decisions.

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IdeationGeek

@ 0 > oo

我想知道,如果人們想在 Infinity 上發表評論?可能是評論中缺少線程會阻止對話嗎?

例如,Reddit 有線程。 Twitter 雖然看起來是線性的,但也有輕量級的線程。 LessWrong 也有線程......但是,Halfbakery 工作得非常好,沒有線程註釋。那麼,我們真的需要評論線程嗎?

I wonder, if people want threading comments on Infinity? Could it be that lack of threading in comments is preventing conversations?

For example, Reddit has threading. Twitter, while looks linear, has light threading too. LessWrong has threading as well... However, Halfbakery works perfectly fine without threading comments. So, do we really need comments threading?

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Mindey

@ Personalized Diet

那麼,將這個問題命名爲“食品兼容性匹配”或類似名稱會更好嗎,因爲這就是您所描述的。 “食物探索”似乎很籠統,可能意味着從農業到購物等任何事物,但您所描述的更多的是_個體生物相容的食物發現_。

So, would this problem be better named as "Food compatibility matching" or something like that, because that is what you're describing. "Food quest" seems very generic, could mean things anything from farming to shopping, etc., but what you're describing, is more of individually biocompatible food discovery.

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Mindey

@ Personalized Diet

嗯,聽了朋友的建議,我發現了一些東西!我對飲食計劃感興趣的原因是一種症狀——頭痛。

但是現在在繪製了我喫的食物並列出了要暫停以進行消除飲食的食物清單後,我發現它可能是“酪胺”引起了我的頭痛(因爲我兩週前開始喫含有它的新食物!)好吧,我現在開始對這些食物進行爲期 2 周的暫停,看看是否是這樣。

但有趣的是,我在這裏公開分享了這個謎題後發現了這個意想不到的解決方案(嘗試嘗試),這促使我與 2 個不同的朋友進行了對話,並帶來了有趣的解決方案來嘗試!

所以,是的,感謝朋友們回答我的難題(即使是在 1:1 的房間裏!):)

我的實驗學習將在 2 周內分享。

Hmm, after following friends' suggestions I discovered something! The reason for my interest in food plans was a symptom - headaches.

But now after mapping the foods I eat and making a list of foods to pause for Elimination Diet, I discovered that it could be "tyramine" causing my headaches (because I started eating new foods 2 weeks ago, that contain it!) Well, I am starting my 2 week pause on these foods now and will see if that's the case.

But it's funny that I discovered this unexpected solution (experiment to try) after publicly sharing this puzzle here, which prompted conversations with 2 different friends and led to the interesting solution to try out!

So yeah thank you friends for responding to my puzzle (even if it was in 1:1 rooms!) :)

My experiment learnings to be shared in 2 weeks..

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Ruta

@ Personalized Diet

Inga 推薦消除飲食

Inga recommends Elimination Diet

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Ruta

@ Personalized Diet

Mindey 推薦這個視頻 和這個視頻,並在日記中跟蹤食物

Mindey recommends this video and this video, and tracking foods in a diary

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Ruta

@ Extreme Health

// 我相信改善我們的健康就像在健身房裏改善我們的身體一樣。如果您堅持不懈地工作並跟蹤您的進步,您可以實現極端健康並對其進行衡量。

歡迎來到 Infinity,[Modestas 博士]!

同意,要改進,必須堅持測量,我們可以詳細討論測量健康所有重要方面的方法。理想情況下,我們可以測量抽象類別,例如 幸福的維度(我做了一個 問卷調查 到非常狹窄和具體的變量,比如......“反應速度”這樣簡單的事情很容易測量使用智能手機(對於警察來說,測量反應速度可能比測量酒精量更重要,因爲反應速度不僅會受到酒精的影響,還會受到許多其他物質的影響,因此反應速度測試是智力敏銳度的更通用指標) .我們可能應該集思廣益,討論與實際健康最相關的可能測試,然後決定投入時間開發什麼。

// I believe that improving our health is the same as improving our physical body in the gym. If you work persistently and track your progress you can achieve Extreme Health and measure it.

Welcome to Infinity, [Dr Modestas]!

Agree, to improve, got to persistently measure, and we could discuss at length about the ways to measure all the important aspects of health. Ideally, we could measure abstract categories, like, the dimensions of happiness (I made a questionnaire for that.) to very narrow and specific variables, like... such simple things as "reaction speed" are easy to measure with a smart-phone (perhaps more important for police to measure the reaction speed, than alcohol amount, because reaction speed could be compromised not just by alcohol, but by many other substances, so reaction speed test is more generic indicator of intellectual acuity). We should probably brainstorm about the possible tests, that best correlate with actual health, and then decide what to invest time to develop.

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Mindey

@ Extreme Health

與聲學科學家一起舉辦的非常好的活動

Very good event With Acoustics Scientist & Inventor of the CymaScope John Stuart Reid you can attend for FREE on Wednesday: https://theshiftnetwork.com/event/50950/2?email=m.jarutis%40gmail.com

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Dr Modestas

@ Extreme Health

處理我們的健康並跟蹤我們的進步就像去健身房一樣。有些人可以堅持不懈,找到動力並參加健身房,而不幸的是,有些人不能。我相信改善我們的健康就像在健身房裏改善我們的身體一樣。如果您堅持不懈地工作並跟蹤您的進步,您可以實現極端健康並對其進行衡量。謝謝,Mindy 進行了很好的討論。 Modestas Jarutis 博士 (www.HolisticDoctor.eu) 任何想追蹤自己健康狀況的人都可以每週或每月完成一次我的健康問卷,我們可以討論需要做些什麼來改善健康。 https://baserow.io/form/CyNiJ4IrbQ839JgS2HY_gxrzckmqYZZD398wIwZv7LE

Dealing with our health and tracking our progress is like going to the gym. Some people can be persistent, find motivation and attend the gym and some, unfortunately, can't. I believe that improving our health is the same as improving our physical body in the gym. If you work persistently and track your progress you can achieve Extreme Health and measure it. Thanks, Mindey for a very good discussion. Dr Modestas Jarutis (www.HolisticDoctor.eu)
Anyone who would like to track their health can complete my health questionnaire once a week or once a month and we can discuss what needs to be done to improve health. https://baserow.io/form/CyNiJ4IrbQ839JgS2HY_gxrzckmqYZZD398wIwZv7LE

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Dr Modestas

@ Benefit inbox

就像有“家庭自動化”一樣,這是否類似於“生活自動化”?我想,訂閱還應該根據統計偏好監控規則的例外情況,並要求做出例外情況。例如:

“當我離開房子附近時鎖定我的房子”

統計數據可能顯示,默認情況下人們不想鎖房子,只想在不受歡迎的人(如小偷)接近的情況下鎖房子,然後問:

“只有你?你的家人呢?當陌生人試圖訪問它時鎖定它就足夠了嗎?......”

Like there's "Home automation", would this be something akin to "Life automation"? I guess, the subscriptions should also monitor for exceptions to rules based on statistical preferences, and ask to make exceptions. For example:

"Lock my house when I leave proximity of the house"

The statistics may show, that people don't want to lock houses by default, and only want to lock the house in the cases that unwanted parties (like a thief) are approaching to it, and then ask:

"Only you? What about your family members? Would locking it when a stranger is trying to access it be sufficient? ..."

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Mindey

@ Imaginary auction shop

假裝直到你成功?這讓我想起了生成搜索 的想法,即我們應該生成不存在的產品來滿足搜索需求。投票給他們(產品模型)甚至資助他們不是壞主意。我完全贊成這個。

// 所以這個虛構的網站是營銷專業人士創造美麗的副本和美麗的虛構產品和服務的地方,並且要付出一切。

我認爲,理想情況下,如前一個想法所述,這項工作將是高度自動化的......

對於某些產品(如硬件和機械系統),這應該可以很好地工作。另一方面,有些產品,比如手機,已經變得非常相似,看起來都像圓角的盒子,很難從它們的基本外觀上捕捉到差異。人們按功能或品牌進行搜索。品牌如何成爲產品很奇怪。

Fake it until you make it? This reminds me the idea of generative search, which was a thought that we should generate non-existing products to satisfy search needs. It's not bad idea to vote for them (models of products) and even fund them. I'm all for this.

// So this imaginary website is where marketing professionals create beautiful copy and beautiful imaginary products and services and cost it all.

I think, ideally, as mentioned in the previous idea, this work would be highly automated...

For some products (like hardware and mechanical systems), this should work quite well. On the other hand, some products, like mobile phones had become so similar one to another, that all of them look like boxes with round corners, and it would be rather difficult to capture the differences by their basic appearances. People search by features or brands. It's weird how brands become products.

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Mindey

@ Money valuation as a continuous wave function like the stock market

我建議直接根據那個人來評估人的錢的價值。

所以錢不僅僅是一個數字,這個數字有購買力,但有一個遞歸函數 person_x(person_y(society_valuation((f(person_z, numeric amount, person_z_demand_history, person_z_work_or_additions_to_society)))) = 購買力。

我認爲此時金錢的估值是看不見的。

I suggest that the value of people's money be directly valued based on that person.

So money isn't just a number, and that number has buying power but that there is a recursive function person_x(person_y(society_valuation((f(person_z, numerical amount, person_z_demand_history, person_z_work_or_additions_to_society)))) = buying power.

I think the valuation of money is invisible at this time.

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chronological

@ Money valuation as a continuous wave function like the stock market

我的印象是金錢已經這樣運作了(例如,機票價格波動使廉價旅行有時更實惠,也有各種廉價交易機會,稱爲“拋售”等,而金錢的價值是非常有背景的和多重:例如,一個單位的貨幣值一杯咖啡和去該國另一邊的旅行,有時價格相同),但它沒有可視化,也沒有專注於讓社會階層看到機會.是不是你提議的——是一些系統來可視化它,並幫助緩解財富不平等?

My impression is that money already works like that (e.g., air ticket price fluctuation makes cheap travel more affordable at times, there are also various cheap deal opportunities, called "sell-offs", etc., and the value of money is very contextual and multiple: e.g., a single unit of currency being worth a cup of coffee AND a trip to another side of the country, sometimes at the same price), but it's not visualized, and not focused on making the opportunities apparent to segments of society. Is it that what you're proposing -- is some system to visualize that, and help alleviate the wealth inequality?

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Mindey

@ Money valuation as a continuous wave function like the stock market

在愛爾蘭有一種叫做股票市場的酒吧,菜單項目的價格顯示在電視顯示屏上,價格會隨着時間的推移在夜間發生變化。如果你等待它,你可以便宜地得到飲料或食物。

有一些算法使股市酒吧對訪問者很有趣。

現在,社會是由很多人組成的,每個人每一秒都在貢獻着不同的東西。

一些人(消費者)貢獻了對產品的需求:水、電、食品,它們爲他人創造了工作。這是一件好事。我們需要將該需求表示爲波函數的一部分。所以我們需要某種方式來檢測事物的需求,數字會計系統可以解決這個問題。例如智能手機上帶有按鈕的應用程序。或數字 NFC 鍵控商店和工作場所。

每個人都在看電視時,沒有做任何工作,打開水壺時,用電量上升。

我認爲有些人比其他人爲更好的社會做出了貢獻。我認爲快遞員、廚師、超市物流等基本工人是文明文明的重要人物。它們允許社會的其他部分發揮作用。不幸的是,這些職位沒有聲望,也沒有得到絕大多數社會的尊重。不幸的是,受過教育的人不願意做這些工作,因爲經濟激勵意味着他們可以在其他地方得到更多。

擁有財富的人比每天被迫勞動的人更懶惰,他們在經濟上創造了更多的財富,但他們在世界上做的實際工作也更少。在一個地區養活 1000 人比創造數十億美元的收入更爲重要。

我不想強迫每個人都高效,這與我的目標背道而馳。

我希望那些做最多工作的人能夠得到他們能負擔得起的回報。所以即使是一個窮人也應該得到他提供的1000個富人的產出。

波函數在工作完成時產生較高的數值,而在沒有工作完成時產生較低的數值。

這是一個力量倍增器。需求信號真的很有價值,當你在餐廳並且對某個菜單項目有需求時,你會爲需求做更多的準備。

同樣,筆記本電腦或手機制造商生產更多需求量大的產品。需求信號本身很有價值,但沒有人爲此付費。

人們應該爲他們的需求信號付費,因爲它協調社會並協調資源的最佳使用以實現互利。

波函數被添加到你擁有的錢上,這增加了你購買的力量,並在系統中充當額外的錢。

In Ireland there's something called the stock market bar, where prices of menu items are displayed on a television display, the prices change over time over the night. You can get a drink or food cheaply if you wait for it.

There's some algorithm which causes the stock market bar to be entertaining to those who visit.

Now, society is composed of many people, and each person is contributing a different thing every second.

Some people (consumers) contribute demand for products: water, electricity, food which generates work for others. This is a good thing. We need to represent that demand as part of a wave function. So we need some way of detecting demand for things, digital accounting systems can solve this problem. Such as an app on a smartphone with a button. Or digital NFC keyed shops and workplaces.

When everyone is watching television, no work is being done and when the kettle is turned on, the use of electricity goes up.

I think some people contribute to a better society than other people. I think essential workers such as delivery drivers, chefs and supermarket logistics are very important people for civilized civilization. They allow the rest of society to function. Unfortunately there is no prestige in these positions and they are not respected by the vast majority of society. Unfortunately, educated people are not willing to do these kinds of jobs due to economic incentives mean they can get more elsewhere.

People who have wealth are lazier than people who are forced into labour everyday, economically they produce more wealth but they also do less actual work in the world. Feeding 1000 people in a local area is more fundamentally essential than generating $billions in revenues.

I don't want to force everyone to be productive, that's the opposite of my goal.

I want the people who do the most work to be rewarded by what they can afford. So even a poor person should deserve the output of 1000 rich persons he provides for.

The wave function produces a higher number when work is done and a low number when no work is being done.

This is a force multiplier. The demand signal is really valuable, when you're in a restaurant and there is a demand for a certain menu item, you cook more of that kind of item in preparation for the demand.

Likewise, a laptop or phone manufacturer produces more of the kind of item that has high demand. The demand signal itself is valuable but nobody is paid for it.

People should be paid for their demand signal, as it coordinates society and orchestrates best use of resources for mutual profitability.

The wave function is added to what money you do have, and this increases the power of your purchases and acts as additional money in the system.

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chronological

@ Money valuation as a continuous wave function like the stock market

你沒有具體說明這將如何工作......那麼如何?

You didn't specify the how this would work exactly... So how?

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Mindey

@ Skill and Command allocation system

程序員什麼時候想扮演仁慈的大哥?去一個建築工地,環顧四周,然後,你會發現可能正在爲他們的任務而苦苦掙扎的人,並提供幫助。當然,在線私人公司已經制造了監控系統,將集體數字工作環境轉變爲建築工地,在那裏他們分發帶有跟蹤軟件的計算機,以便他們隨時可以查看每個員工的工作情況。這可能是某些類型的公司(關心員工的公司)成功的原因之一。但是,與您在具有隱私限制的更廣泛的社交環境中描述的最接近的是帶有標籤系統的聯繫人應用程序,您可以在其中根據他們的技能標記所有聯繫人,然後根據需要與他們進行交流。我過去常常這樣做。示例:您知道一項特定技能,例如“化學知識”,因此您標記具有該知識的朋友。如果您有問題,那麼您可以通過按標籤過濾寫誰來寫它們。但是,這不是很有效,因爲您在特定任務或問題上打擾了不必要的人。理想情況下,您會找到唯一一個完美的聯繫人來打擾,他最有可能知道如何解決問題,並且只有在打擾第一個導致需要另一個時纔打擾其他人。

When a programmer wants to play a benevolent big brother? Go to a construction site, and look around, then, you find people who may be struggling with their task, and help out. Sure, online, private corporations have made surveillance systems that convert the collective digital work environment into something like a construction site, where they distribute computers with tracking software, so that they can always take a look at how each employee is doing. It may be one of the reasons why companies of certain type (the ones that care about their people), succeed. However, the closest thing to what you're describing in the wider social setting with privacy constraints, is a contacts application with labeling system, where you label all of your contacts by their skills, and then communicate with them based on need. I used to do so in the past. Example: you know a particular skill, say, "chemistry knowledge", so you label your friends who have that knowledge. If you have a problem, then you can write them by filtering whom to write by the label. It's not very efficient though, because you're bothering more people than necessary with a particular task or question. Ideally, you would find the only one perfect contact to bother, who is most likely to know how to solve the problem, and bother others only if bothering the first one resulted in the need for another.

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Mindey

@ Distributed command and coordination

在谷歌,員工決定做什麼並得到他們的經理的批准。 不幸的是,谷歌的生產力非常低,谷歌首席執行官桑達爾·皮查伊威脅要裁員。

At Google, employees decide what to do and their manager's ratify it. Unfortunately productivity at Google is very low and the CEO of Google, Sundar Pichai has threatened layoffs.

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chronological

@ Non exhausting labour

你可以擁有兩種股權,每個月根據誰再投資什麼來稀釋。

來自資本的權益和來自增值的權益。

發行的股權每個月都會被稀釋,但未提供的股權(即人們所持有的股權)已過期。

這個想法是管理層和工人隨着時間的推移獲得最多的股權,隨着時間的推移他們成爲事實上的所有者。

原始資本得到他們投入的東西

You could have two kinds of equity and dilute every month based on who reinvests what.

Equity from capital and equity from value added.

The equity in issue is diluted every month but equity that wasn't served (i.e equity people are sitting on) is expired.

The idea is that management and workers gain the most equity over time and they become the de facto owners over time.

The original capital gets what they put in

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chronological

@ Non exhausting labour

好吧,我對“筋疲力盡”一詞的使用適用於工作補償的性質。當工人的工作得到報酬時,交易就結束了。這項工作對工人的效用已經耗盡,但對資本所有者卻沒有。

資本則相反,它的效用永遠不會耗盡。即使你得到了資本的回報,你也會得到更多的回報。

隨着時間的推移,工人貢獻的工作比資本一開始的貢獻多。這是一種由工人維持的連鎖反應。

如果工人的投入和事業被重視並被視爲資本,他們將隨着時間的推移獲得公平。

所有權應該基於誰在做這項工作。

或者股權應該到期。

Well my use of the word "exhausting" applies to the nature of work compensation. When the worker is paid for their work, the transaction is over. The work is exhausted in its utility for the worker but not for the capital owner.

Capital is the opposite, it never exhausts in its utility. Even if you are paid back for the capital, you get more of it back.

A worker contributes more work over time than capital did at the beginning. It's kind of a chain reaction that is maintained by workers.

If workers input and causes was valued and treated as capital, they would gain equity over time.

Ownership should be based on who is doing the work.

Or equity should expire.

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chronological

@ Non exhausting labour

是的,我注意到“補償”一詞意味着支付成本,這是有問題的,因此創建了[此股權模型](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLdPmZAYiXM

Yes, I noticed that the term "compensation" meaning pay for cost, is problematic, and therefore, created this equity model to remedy the situation. In essence, if an employer only pays for the cost of making, they paid for your loss, and took your gain, whereas in reality, both of you added equal amount of resources -- one added those resources in terms of labor costs, another (employer) in terms of monetary costs, and got a result, which, if the payment from employer only covered the cost, then, the result should be shared in equal parts between the employer and the employed, and based on this rule, if put in legal practice, we could have a fair distribution of wealth. However, the described equity model actually solves the problem in accounting sense...

Can you explain exactly, how this would "labor as capital" be treated? According to my formula, the labor would automatically become co-ownership of shares generated by work results, and this is what I'm thinking of, when it comes to fully-fledged investment model on the Infinity family.

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Mindey

@ Principle of Balancing Transparency with Capability

所以我們有安全服務來保護我們免受諸如反恐、反欺詐和反犯罪等邪惡的侵害。 他們獲取我們的私人數據以確保政府、君主制和公民社會等機構的安全。

他們說,那些爲了安全而放棄隱私的人都不值得。問題也變成了,誰在看守望者。

So we have security services that defend us from evil such as counterterrorism, counterfraud and countercrime. They take access to our private data to keep the institutions safe, such as governments, monarchy and civil society.

They say that those that would give up privacy for security deserve neither. The question also becomes, who watches the watchers.

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chronological

@ Dressing up future humans

任何限制我每天需要隨身攜帶的東西的時尚。 也許 T 恤上有芯片,有生物特徵數據和用於付款的帳號,這樣我就可以去商店或餐館用我穿的衣服付款。通過掃描 T 恤並在鍵盤上輸入密碼。

或者以某種方式隨身攜帶 USB 充電器電纜,這並不尷尬。

Any fashion that limits what I need to carry with me every day. Perhaps t shirts that are chipped and have biometric data and a account number to pay for things with, so I can go to a shop or restaurant and pay with the clothes I am wearing. By scanning the tshirt and entering a password on the keypad.

Or some way to carry a USB charger cable with me, that isn't awkward.

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chronological

@ Dressing up future humans

時尚讓我感興趣,因爲我們穿的衣服就像是社會的觸發器。時尚塑造社會規範。例如,朋克運動部分表現在穿着厚重的靴子和破洞牛仔褲。通過服裝,人們可以在街上看到他們的部落成員。服裝中帶有與該亞文化相關的行爲和價值觀。

在舊時代,女性會穿着厚重的連衣裙,就像穿在她們身上的雕塑一樣。這些服裝再次提升了某些價值觀。

所以,展望未來,我很好奇未來的服裝會有哪些元素?第二個問題是,這些未來派服裝將促進哪些價值觀/行爲?

Fashion interests me because what we wear works like a trigger in society. Fashion shapes social norms. For example, punk movement was partly expressed through wearing heavy boots and ripped jeans. Through outfit, one can see their tribe member on the street. Within outfit comes behaviours and values attached to that subculture.

In older times, women would wear heavy dresses that are like sculptures put on them. These outfits promoted certain values again.

So, looking ahead, I'm curious what elements will be in outfits of the future? Secondary question is, what values/behaviours will these futuristic outfits will promote?

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Ruta

@ W.BART

我得到了一個人體模型並開始了時尚課程和我在 Miro 上的靈感地圖以及我收集的服裝作爲材料。現在我不得不說,我有點不知所措。這個項目的目的也發生了一些變化。所以我在想怎麼進化。

I got a manequin and started fashion course and a map of my inspirations on Miro as well as I have a collection of outfits as materials. I'm a bit overwhelmned now I have to say. Also a purpose of this project has changed a bit. So I'm thinking how to evolve.

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Ruta

@ KOKONO

自從我上次更新以來,網站又更改了 2 次,啓動了 2 個客戶項目,還有一位合作者加入了我們,共同創建了一個將於今年 8 月推出的培訓計劃。更多!

Since my last update, website was changed 2 more times, 2 client projects started and one more collaborator joined us to co-create a training programme due to launch this August. More soon!

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Ruta

@ o2oo Feature Requests

同樣在用戶配置文件中,擁有此功能會很有用:

優惠(一般) 請求(一般)

這樣每個 Infinity 成員都可以描述:

  • 他們希望如何幫助其他成員和協作(=Offers)

  • 他們希望爲他們的問題、想法或項目獲得什麼支持/合作

成員之間的鏈接是關鍵(鏈接構成一個系統),技術可以更多地促進協作:)

Also in User Profiles it'd be useful to have this Feature:

Offers (general) Requests (general)

So that each Infinity member could describe:

  • how they would like to help other members and collaborate (=Offers)

  • what support/collaboration they would like to get for their problems , ideas or projects

Links between members are key (links make a system) and tech could facilitate collaboration more :)

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Ruta

@ Capped debt

這與“Convertible note”的想法有何不同?

How is this different from the idea of "Convertible note"?

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Mindey

@ Funding-Work-Revenue cross dependency

[thekhan],嗯,這正是我們想要解決的問題:讓人們有一個合乎邏輯的想法,開始研究它,並從它的那一刻起獲得資金:

  • (A) 邏輯上是有道理的
  • (B) 有人願意爲此投入時間和資源

[thekhan], Well, that's exactly the problem that we want to solve: to enable people with an idea, that makes logical sense, to start working on it, and get funded for doing it from the moment when it:

  • (A) logically makes sense
  • (B) someone is willing to put their time and resources to it

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Mindey

@ Funding-Work-Revenue cross dependency

在我看來,十字架錯過了最關鍵的一點,那就是時間。爲每個項目創建基礎都需要時間,可悲的是,它是所有項目中最稀缺的資源。資助者將要求獲得 MVP(最小可行產品)的資助。除非您有時間創建 MVP,否則您從一開始就沒有機會。只有在 MVP 之後,才能開始循環。

In my opinion the cross missing the most critical point, which is time. Time is required to create a basis for every project and sadly it's the most scarce resource of all. Funders will ask for a MVP (minimum viable product) for funding. Unless you have time to create a MVP you will have no chance from the beginning. And only after MVP the cycle can start.

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thekhan

@ Coffee shop queue

你的提議是讓銀行、商店、繁忙的郵局和其他類似的地方向機場學習,這些地方已經實施了配備便利設施的候機廳?我認爲,當然,這比單純的等待要好。

What you're proposing is to get banks, shops, busy postal offices and other such places learn from airports, that had already implemented waiting halls with amenities and conveniences? I think, it would be preferable, of course, better than plain waiting.

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Mindey

@ Funding-Work-Revenue cross dependency

Gitlab 正在歸檔休眠的 GitLab 項目。 Freshmeat.net 是我用來尋找新開源項目的網站。不幸的是,他們停止更新網站。我們被freshcode.club取代

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32338481

問題是普遍的。一個人繼續爲別人做某事,就需要一些回報。免費午餐不會永遠持續下去。

Gitlab is archiving dormant GitLab projects. and freshmeat.net was a site I did use for finding new open source projects. Unfortunately they stopped updating the site. And we're replaced by freshcode.club

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32338481

The problem is universal. For someone to keep doing something for someone else, there needs to be some return. The free lunch doesn't last forever.

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chronological

@ How to get people to do things for you - worker escrow

啊忘記發了,這個問題和那個問題加個區分(承諾購買)

(a) 承諾購買是指您有錢並且願意花錢請人根據描述進行創作。多人加入承諾購買並增加更多的錢。做工作的人決定創造什麼。

(b) Worker escrow 是命令某人創作一件作品,告訴工人該做什麼。

Ah I forgot I posted that, I shall add a differentiation between this question and that question (commit to buy)

(a) Commit to buy is when you have money and you are willing to pay money for someone to create something based on a description. Multiple people join a commit to buy and add more money to it. The people who do the work decide what to create.

(b) Worker escrow is to command someone to create a piece of work, the worker is told what to do.

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chronological

@ How to get people to do things for you - worker escrow

這個功能在隊列中,我想,我們之前討論過,這裏,對吧?

This feature is in the queue, I suppose, we talked about it, here before, right?

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Mindey

@ Virtual GoodReward thank tokens/shares

實際上,我多次嘗試聯繫他。他的朋友 AnnMarie 說他摔斷腿後患上了抑鬱症,現在不能滑雪,不再快樂了:(

Actually, i tried to reach him many times. His friend AnnMarie said he has depression after he broke his leg and now cant ski and no happy anymore :(

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kriz

@ The Predicament of Having Nothing or society is terrible

埃隆馬斯克:“人們比你想象的要好,給人們更多的信任”。 “信任”的定義在數學上等同於“預期價值”的定義——即,我們將信用(作爲金錢)作爲信任,當我們期望其他人會用它做什麼時,將符合我們的期望(預期values)...爲了讓更多的人意識到會是這樣,需要更高效的信息交換系統...有俗話說“偉大的思想都一樣”......也許照亮人們的思想會有所幫助。

Elon Musk: "People are nicer than you think, give people more credit". Definition of "trust" is mathematically equivalent to definition of "expected value" -- i.e., we give credit (as money) as trust, when we expect that what others will do with it, will be in line with our expectations (expected values)... To make more people realize that it would be the case, more efficient information exchange systems are needed... There's a saying "great minds think alike"... Perhaps brightening people's minds would help.

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Mindey

@ Virtual GoodReward thank tokens/shares

哦,我很想看看[skihappy]。他是一位出色的物理學家和思想家。他的用戶名讓我想起了 [skinflaps]。

Oh, I would love to see [skihappy]. He's a good physicist and thinker. His username reminds me of [skinflaps].

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Mindey

@ Virtual GoodReward thank tokens/shares

我認爲您做了出色的工作,並且該站點確實可用且易於使用。這是一個很好的本體。我可以看到它工作得很好。

正如 Ruta 所說,該網站吸引了某種想要談論問題、目標和想法的人。不幸的是,並不是每個人都有這種個性。

在某些方面,使用這個網站是“與 Mindey 社交” ;-) 當然我很感謝 Grounded Stream、Xntoo 和 Ruta ;-) 滑雪快樂在哪裏?斯蒂芬去哪兒了?

I think you did a great piece of work and the site is really useable and easy to use. It's a good ontology. I can see it working really well.

As Ruta said, the site attracts a certain kind of personality who want to talk of problems, goals and ideas. Unfortunately not everybody has that personality.

In some ways, using this site is "socialising with Mindey" ;-) There's of course I am grateful for Grounded Stream, Xntoo and Ruta though ;-) Where is skihappy? Where did Stephen go?

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chronological

@ Virtual GoodReward thank tokens/shares

謝謝你,[按時間順序],也,你實際使用它!我希望這個地方在接下來的幾個月裏變得更加有趣。

Thank you, [chronological], as well, for actually using it! I hope this place becomes more fun in the coming months.

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Mindey

@ Virtual GoodReward thank tokens/shares

Mindey 我寄給你 1x 感謝 Infinity Family 的代幣。

Mindey I send you 1x thankyou token for Infinity Family.

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chronological

@ Virtual GoodReward thank tokens/shares

這實際上是一個好主意。在某些情況下,人們不想爲他們的幫助花錢,但你確實想感謝他們,這也是一種在與這些幫助相關的期貨中持有股份的方式,尤其是,如果這些令牌是持久的,並且與身份相關聯。

That's actually a great idea. There's really cases, where people don't want to take money for their help, but you do want to thank them, and it's also a kind of way to have a stake in the futures connected to those help-outs, especially, if these tokens are long-lasting, and tied to identities.

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Mindey