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讓世界共同定義和追求人類目標的全球金融智囊團。
0oo.li YAML 項目 產品

該項目是管理此網站本身的開發的項目。 它是一個根據該項目的背景故事視頻)中的願望來創建的I/O系統,該系統描述了幫助人類共同定義和追求目標的願望,以及通過這種方式,創造一種友好的人類智能。

期望結果

  • [3-5年內] 5億人辭去工作,直接在社會中解決問題,做自己喜歡的事。
  • [7年內] 健康,教育和工作方面的主要挑戰通過建議,嘗試的創新解決方案得到解決,並且其中一部分得到進一步發展。

領導

  • Mindey I.(數據科學家,項目經理)
  • Ruta D.(營銷人員,增長黑客)

貢獻者

  • Aliev A.(後端軟件工程師)
  • (考慮添加+)Artem K.(前端軟件工程師)

夥伴

朋友 - Foresight Institute (https://foresight.org) - BFI Institute (https://www.bfi.org)


業務信息

KPIs

  • Distance to goal of enabling people to:
    • evolve important questions,
    • potentially breakthrough ideas and
    • evolving prototypes in projects:
      • ↑ their quality and quantity.

Roadmap

  • Past
    • 2005-01-22: Birth of Idea at Halfbakery (story: en, ja - motivation description, when in Waseda U).
    • 2014-07-02: v1 started prototype halfmakery.com (stopped: 2014-09-02)
    • 2015-07-08: v2 started prototype infty.xyz (stopped: 2017-06-24)
    • 2015-10-05: founded WeFindX Foundation with Ruta, in Ireland.
    • 2017-07-16: v3 started prototype inf.li (ReactJS) (stopped: 2019-01-15)
    • 2020-02-25: v4 started multi-domain (Django+Plain HTML) prototype (0oo.li, mugen.moe, sumanymai.lt,..)
    • 2020-09-20: Semantic Equation Model (Preprint)
  • Present
    • 2021-11-17: v4 is feature-complete.
  • Future
    • Many things described in the onepager still apply.
    • To resolve 3 key things:
      • Financial freedom by work on many things in public and get credit.
      • Civilization DNA (know-how) extraction, described in invite.
      • Protocol for world to collectively define and pursue goals.
  • Strategy
    • Continued v4 Stewardship
      • Ensuring that current feature-set works well, and more efficiently, securely.
    • Grassroots Communication and Marketing
      • Communication via projects.
      • Inviting ideators.
      • Inviting solicitors for ideas (researchers, think-tanks)
    • Partnerships and Outreach
      • have organizations to represent other sites: U.S., China, Japan, Russia.
    • Development
      • Rewrite the system with high development standards, the v5, as high-performance API-only.
      • Advance blockchain features (perhaps run own OpenDAX)
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好的,所以正確的活動頁面是: https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/infinity-project-updates-gathering-tickets-312778227097

Alright, so the correct event page is: https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/infinity-project-updates-gathering-tickets-312778227097



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Mindey,
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哦真的嗎!讓我一回家就公開。

Oh, really! Let me make it public as soon as I'm home.

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該鏈接是私人的,它對我不起作用。

That link is private it doesn't work for me.

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好吧,讓我們試試,這是我剛剛創建的一個活動的鏈接: https://www.eventbrite.com/preview?eid=312778227097/

你怎麼看?我們應該有不同的日期/時間嗎?

Well, let's try, here's a link to an event I've just created: https://www.eventbrite.com/preview?eid=312778227097/

What do you think? Should we have a different date/time?

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是的,明迪! Eventbrite 最擅長提醒。擁有一個活動頁面來註冊也可以很容易地邀請其他人。

替代方案可能是我們舉辦虛擬未來學家聚會的聚會個人資料!如果有很多人加入,使用 Zoom 可以很容易地將人們帶入分組會議室,以便在 2-3 人之間進行更舒適的共享。

Yes, Mindey! Eventbrite is the best at reminders. Having an event page to register also makes it easy to invite others.

Alternative could be a Meetup profile where we host virtual futurists meetups! In cases if many people would join, with Zoom it's easy to bring people into breakout rooms for cozier sharing between 2-3 people.



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我認爲我們應該這樣做!這是一件很棒的事情,我相信我們會有什麼可以分享的。

我們應該爲此發出某種 eventbrite 邀請嗎?他們擅長提醒訂閱者:)

I think we should do it! It's a great thing to do, and I'm sure we'd have what to share.

Should we have some kind of eventbrite invitation for this? They are good at reminding subscribers :)



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我想知道,如果人們想重新啓動oo社區電話?條款:所有參與者都將分享他們項目的進展:)

在過去的一個月裏,我們在 ogiziu 和 Instinto Creador 項目之間使用 [malü] 的這種方法,它幫助我們真正地共同進化!

我們通常會在視頻通話中連接 1 小時,然後我們每個人都會分享:

1)我們每個人上週做了什麼,

2)我們每個人接下來會做什麼,

3) 任何障礙或挑戰。

有人想以這種方式在oo社區電話中聯繫嗎?

I wonder, if people would like to restart oo community calls? terms: all participants would share progress about their projects :)

such method we use with [malü] between ogiziu and Instinto Creador projects for the past month, and it helped us truly to evolve together!

we typically connect for 1 hour on a video call and each of us share:

1) what each of us did last week,

2) what each of us will do next,

3) any obsctales or challenges.

anyone would like to connect in oo community calls this way?



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我的印象是,Infinity 需要至少 3 種社區的專業知識:

  1. Foresight.org、BFI.org、metaculus.com 的“問題/謎題”部分,
  2. Halfbakery.com 的“創意”部分,
  3. Pioneer.app、IndieHackers.com 的“項目”部分。

還有更多,比如產品部分,但在這個時候,以社區文化爲重點,前三件事是最有益的,我認爲。

I have an impression, that Infinity requires the expertise of at least 3 kind of communities:

  1. Foresight.org, BFI.org, metaculus.com for the "Issues/Puzzles" part,
  2. Halfbakery.com for the "Ideas" part,
  3. Pioneer.app, IndieHackers.com for the "Projects" part.

There is more, like the products part, but at this time, taking the cultures of community focusing the first 3 things would be most beneficial, I think.

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同意對於作爲一個系統的 oo 來說“運動”是多麼重要。

嗯,我不確定“動態中的想法”,因爲人們多久研究一下別人的想法?人們需要激勵來做到這一點。人們更經常地致力於自己的想法,或者只是項目,想法在實驗過程的後期展開。

對我來說,一個有趣的 oo 系統價值衡量標準是:Link-Building,即網絡的活躍程度?成員對彼此的帖子發表評論和協作的頻率如何?會員帖子之間的聯繫越多樣化,引發的創意思想就越多樣化,系統上的內容質量越高,對系統的保留越多,參與度越高,推薦越多。

總體而言,我看到 oo 系統的健康狀況——彼此之間的聯繫和關係激發了每個人的創造性思維。

順便說一句 - 改進對特定評論的回覆很有用!

Agree how important is to be "in motion" for the oo as a system.

Hmm, I'm not sure about "ideas in motion", because how often people work on somebody else's ideas? People need incentives to do that. More often people work on their own ideas, or just projects, where ideas unfold later in the experimentation process.

To me, an interesting measure of value of the oo system would be: Link-Building, i.e. how active the network is? How often members comment and collaborate on each other's posts? The more diverse links between members posts, the more diverse creative thoughts sparked, the more quality content on the system, the more retention to the system, the more engagement, the more referrals.

Overall, I see the health of the oo system being - links and relationships between each others that spark creative thoughts for everyone.

Btw - improved replies to specific comments are useful!



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我認爲,我們系統的主要 KPI 是“想法”和“動態想法”,其中“動態” - 意味着它們正在積極工作(例如,定期更新)。

順便說一句,您可以直接回複評論和分類帳事件,因此可以形成特定線程和回覆作品等。

Thinking of the major KPI for our system, I think, is the "ideas" and "ideas in motion", where "in motion" - means, that they are actively being worked (e.g., has periodic updates).

Btw., you can reply to comments and ledger events directly, so it is possible to form specific threads and respond to works, etc.



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注:創新者社區聯繫方式:

  • [日本] https://dynalist.io/d/iIT_nuAiAMx9JxctYclliF43

Note: Contacts of innovator communities:

  • [Japan] https://dynalist.io/d/iIT_nuAiAMx9JxctYclliF43
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好吧。我添加了路徑:/invitation/hi 作爲公開邀請的地方(例如,點擊 0oo.li/hi 0oo.li/invitation 導致公開邀請。)

Alright. I've added paths: /invitation and /hi to serve as place for public invites (so, for example, clicking on 0oo.li/hi or 0oo.li/invitation leads to the public invite.)



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邀請鏈接中的文本在使用邀請後不會消失,因此它們仍然可以訪問,並且任何舊的邀請鏈接仍然可讀,或者您的意思是我們需要一個更好的 URL,例如 0oo.li/public-letter 或某物?

The text inside the invite links does not disappear after the invite is used, so they remain accessible, and any old invite link is still readable, or do you mean we need a nicer URL for it, like 0oo.li/public-letter or something?



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謝謝!哦,我的意思是 - 可以在網站上更輕鬆地訪問邀請頁面文本並與人們共享嗎?

Thanks! Oh and I meant - can invite page text be accessed easier on the website and shared with people?

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最古老的是 here,但是,有 ( paper)(關於方程模型),它取代了該設計。

The oldest one is here, however, there's the (paper) (on the equation model), which supersedes that design.



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0oo的白皮書在哪裏?我想與朋友分享(但沒有邀請,只是文本閱讀)。在網站頁腳和 0oo 項目描述中查看白皮書鏈接會很有用:)

Where is the Whitepaper of 0oo? I'd like to share it with a friend (but without an invite, just text to read). It would be useful to see Whitepaper linked in the footer of the website and in the 0oo project description :)



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我知道了。這可能很有用。在結果中使用“隱藏公開”複選框以用作草稿怎麼樣?選擇此項允許對不在項目“成員”中的每個人隱藏它(但它仍然會在項目頻道中收到通知)。我會考慮在下一次迭代中添加這個功能。

我這樣做的方式是,我列出了我通過編輯目標完成的項目,只需在其中添加項目符號,然後編寫包含更多詳細信息的更新結果。

I got it. This may be useful. What about using "Hide from Public" checkbox in the results to use as drafts? Selecting this allows to hide it from everyone who are not in the "members" of the project (but it will still get a notification in project channel). I'll consider adding this feature in next iteration.

The way I'm doing it, is that I list the items that I have completed by editing a target, just adding bullet points in it, and then, writing an update as a result with more details.



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反饋請求:

我希望能夠將“草稿”添加到“結果”中。因爲我喜歡在我的項目頁面中記錄我的任務發生時的生活。有了草稿,我可以改進我的結果聲明——我可以在以後抽出時間記錄每個結果的報告,並在以後將草稿變成公開的結果聲明。

feedback request:

I'd like to be able to add "drafts" to "results". because I love lifelogging my tasks in my project pages when they happen. with drafts, I could improve my result declarations - I could find time to record a report on each result later, and turn a draft into a public result declaration later.



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[“讓一切都存在”](https://book.mindey.com/metaformat/0000-philosophy/0000-philosophy.html

"Let Everything Exist" philosophy should be linked to 0oo project :)



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人們分解和運行項目。因此,每個項目都是由一些組件組成的。對於任意示例,此類“部分”可以是:

  • 內容
  • 社區
  • 設計
  • 供應商
  • 會計

這些是隨機的類別,但想象一下世界上某個地方的某個項目有專門的人員團隊來照顧這些特定的組件,以便它們可靠地運行。我認爲可靠工作的組件是對社會可擴展價值的本質。

每個不同的項目通常會有非常不同的一組這樣的“部分”來運行和發展,如果我們想通過很多不同的人的合作來創造一些新產品,我們需要有一種方法來組織部分和參與,以便能夠正確地信任每個人,並透明地制定戰略。

那麼,這在 0oo 上會是什麼樣子呢?好吧,我想,可以在項目設置的“業務詳細信息”部分下提供初始樹管理,使用 markdown-syntax 來描述一棵樹(例如,HiveCell project/236/?l=en&s=t) 可能有一個物理部分的樹(點擊它下面的“業務詳細信息”),以及負責每個部分的團隊,以及 0oo 可能有微服務和團隊作爲部件負責它們,等等。),我們可以稍後對其進行解析,並將其用作項目結果和操作的分類選項。

總之,在考慮任何項目時,分解是需要考慮的事情。目前,只有使用項目的“業務詳細信息”部分來執行這些操作的基本方法。後面我會考慮如何詳細說明。

People decompose and run projects. So, every project is made up of some components. For an arbitrary example, such "parts" could be:

  • Content
  • Community
  • Designs
  • Suppliers
  • Accounting

These are random categories, but imagine that some project somewhere in the world has teams of people dedicated to take care that these particular components, so that they function reliably. I think that reliably working components are the essence of scalable value to society.

Each different project will usually have very different set of such said "parts" to function and evolve, and if we want to create some new product through a cooperation of a lot of various people, we need to have a way to organize the graph of parts and involvement, so as to be able to credit everyone correctly, and strategize transparently.

So, how this may look like on 0oo? Well, I suppose, initial tree management could be provided under the "Business Details" section in the project settings, using markdown-syntax to describe a tree (for example, HiveCell may have a tree of physical parts (click "Business Details" under it), and teams responsible for each, and 0oo may have microservices and teams responsible for them as parts, and so on.), which we could later parse, and use as classification options for project results and operations.

In summary, the decompositions is something to think about, when thinking of any project. For now, there's just this basic way of doing them using "Business Details" section of project. I'll think how to elaborate on it later on.

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[Ruta],是的,“製作”更有意義,所以將其重命名爲“製作”;)

// “分銷”表示將商品零售分銷到超市。這種類型的意圖是什麼?

它適用於任何需要擴展的東西——例如,以分發“內容分發”爲重點的項目可能希望擴展藝術的影響,或者“產品分發”將專注於大規模交付製成的產品。

[Ruta], yeah "Making" makes more sense, so renamed it to "Making" ;)

// "Distribution" suggests retail distribution of goods into supermarkets. what's the intention of that type?

It's intended for anything that's mean to be scaled -- for example, distribution "content distribution" focused project would possibly want to scale the impact of an art, or "product distribution" would be focused on delivering the made products at scale.

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RE 類型:

[Mindey],我喜歡作爲一種類型的製造,比製造更全面(這意味着大工廠製造,這與藝術的製作方式相去甚遠)。嗯,Distribution 建議將商品零售分配到超市。這種類型的意圖是什麼?也許可以創建一個更全面的:)

RE types:

[Mindey], I like Making as a type, way more comprehensive than Manufacturing (which suggests big factory manufacturing, which is so far away of how art is made). hmm, Distribution suggests retail distribution of goods into supermarkets. what's the intention of that type? perhaps a more comprehensive one could be created :)



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it would be useful somehow organise related Puzzles with potential parents and children, to make it easier to navigate related topics!

it would be useful somehow organise related Puzzles with potential parents and children, to make it easier to navigate related topics!



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// 我想添加一個藝術項目,它的目的是社會影響,所以也許是“社會”類型

通常,具有社會影響力的藝術是一種感知的製造(~=製造)和營銷(~=分發)。 :) 我認爲,如果一個藝術項目是關於製作一件新的藝術作品,可以通過將“製造”類別重命名爲“製作”來概括。然後,藝術屬於“製作”如果一件藝術品被廣泛傳播(如通過推文)以達到社會影響,它甚至可以歸入“分發”類別。

// I want to add an art project, it's purpose is societal impact, so perhaps a Type "Society"

Usually, art for social impact is a kind of making (~= manufacturing) and marketing (~=distribution) of perceptions. :) I think, if an art project is about making a new art piece, it could be generalized by renaming the "Manufacturing" category into "Making". Then, Art kind of falls under "Making" If a piece of art is widely distributed (like via a Tweet) to reach social impact, it can even fall under "Distributing" category.

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缺少添加項目時的類型。如果我想添加一個藝術項目,它的目的是社會影響,那麼也許是“社會”類型?與社區項目一樣,它們現在不適合當前類型:) 也許“社會”或“社會影響”會同時涵蓋藝術和社區項目?

Type when adding Projects is missing. If I want to add an art project, it's purpose is societal impact, so perhaps a Type "Society"? Same with community projects, they don't fit into current types now :) Perhaps "Society" or "Social Impact" would cover both - art and community - projects?



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// 是否有可能讓其他組織可以在 Ooo 之上建立基於會員的網站

是的,[Ruta],其實很可能把一個類別變成一個域,就像medium.com已經是域,允許用戶設置他們的域,但是共享單個數據庫。我仍在考慮實施社區功能的最佳初始方式,並考慮一下。 :)

// Would it be possible to make it so, that other organisations could set up membership-based websites on top of Ooo

Yeah, [Ruta], in fact it is very possible to make a category into a domain, like medium.com has been domain, allowing users to set their domain, however, sharing single database. I'm still considering best initial way to implement communities functionality, and think about it. :)



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// 創建“oo”社區功能

你好!我對這個很好奇。是否有可能讓其他組織可以在 Ooo 之上建立基於會員的網站,並每月向 0oo 繳納稅款(根據他們的會員收入)以提供此類基礎設施?什麼是可定製的?是否可以使這些視圖 - 主頁、用戶配置文件、項目頁面 - 是可定製的?

作爲 KOKONO,我會對此感興趣。此外,如果提供了關於如何定製設計的明確文檔(即使對於設計/開發同事),我相信許多促進在線學習和在線社區的微型組織也會對此感興趣。目前,使用了 Discord、WordPress、Kajabi、Circle 等工具。

// create "oo" communities functionality

Hello! I'm curious about this. Would it be possible to make it so, that other organisations could set up membership-based websites on top of Ooo and pay a monthly tax (based on their revenue from memberships) to 0oo for providing such infrastructure? What would be customisable? Could it be made so, that these views - Homepage, User Profiles, Project page - are customisable?

I'd be interested in this as KOKONO. Also, if clear documentation provided on how to customise the design (even for design/development colleagues), I believe many micro organisations who facilitate online learning and online communities would be interested in this too. At the moment, tools like Discord, WordPress, Kajabi, Circle, ... are used.



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市場上的評論順序顛倒了,但讓我們看看。這很容易做到,我認爲最好是按用戶自定義。 ;)非常期待UI / UX的發展,因此,您可以啓動此類主題,只需選中“基本管理”框即可;)

Comment order is reversed in the market, but let's see. It can easily be done, and I think best to be per-user customizable. ;) Very much looking forward to evolving the UI/UX, so, you can start such topic, just tick the "Base Administration" box ;)



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讓我們請顛倒註釋順序=)以首先查看最新的。同樣,[+ comment]按鈕最好位於頂部。我想啓動一個有關0oo UI升級的項目。

Let us please reverse the comments order =) to see the latest first. Also [+comment] button better be on top. I want to start a project about 0oo UI upgrade.



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我有點希望擁有:

1.項目(如積壓工作)的願望清單,人們可以在其中寫自己想做的事情。挑戰功能非常適合衝刺和問題,但不適用於寫出我們計劃要做的事情或我們希望做的功能。這可以通過已經存在的“結果”模型來實現,只需添加額外的屬性即可。 2.主題的自定義URL(因此我們可以爲項目提供唯一的URL,包括用戶名下的用戶個人資料)。 3.區域站點之間的多主PostgreSQL同步,用戶可以自行選擇共享給其他節點的內容。

I kinda wish to have:

  1. Wishlists for projects (that work like backlogs), where people could write the things they'd like to do. Challenges feature is great for sprints and questions, but not that well for writing out things that we're planning to do, or features that we wish to do. That could be realized via "Results" model that already exists, just adding extra property.
  2. Custom URLs for topics (so we could give unique URLs to items, including user profiles under username).
  3. Multi-master PostgreSQL synchronization between regional sites, with user's own choice what to share to other nodes.


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N次測試首頁:0oo的首頁目前僅以一種方式出現,但是,通過更改頂部類別,例如[0oo.li/?cat=971](https://0oo.li/?cat= 971),它的顯示方式可能會完全不同。因此,實際上,如果我們對訪問者有更多瞭解,例如他們輸入了什麼搜索引擎關鍵字,我們可以在第一次訪問時顯示不同的主題版本0oo。而且,在所有這些類別可以像在不同的Reddit網站上一樣工作之後,除了它實際上會在每個更廣泛的主題領域中顯示重要的問題,想法和項目(公司)……這很容易-只需傳遞類別ID ,例如Cyberspace:[0oo.li/?cat=1366](https://0oo.li/?cat=1366)。

N-way testing of the homepage: the homepage of 0oo is currently appearing just one way, however, by changing the top category, like 0oo.li/?cat=971, it can appear completely differently. So, in actuality, if we knew a little bit more about the person visiting, like what search engine keyword they had entered, we could display a different topic version of 0oo on the first visit. And, after all those categories can work a bit like different reddit sites, except, it would actually display the important questions, ideas and projects(companies) in each broader subject domain... and that is so easy -- just passing category ID, e.g., Cyberspace: 0oo.li/?cat=1366.

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我們可以進行僅markdown導出,甚至-[Syncthing上的實時.md副本-這樣,任何人都可以在Markdown編輯器(如Obsidian.md)上打開整個0oo內容作爲知識圖。 。我的意思是,作爲數據導出的功能,我們可以很容易地生成 像這樣

前幾天,我也在考慮,首先將0oo的內容作爲GitHub存儲庫頁面發佈,而不是在單個存儲庫中,而是在許多人(主題的作者)的存儲庫中(例如[chronological]之類的人喜歡將他的想法保存在自己的GitHub存儲庫中,可以在那裏進行編輯)。

這裏有一件特別的事,我們有多語言的Markdown頁面,這些頁面具有特殊的額外語法,可以將多種語言的版本組合到一個頁面中。

We could make markdown-only export, or even -- live .md copies on Syncthing -- so that anyone could open entire 0oo content as a knowledge graph on Markdown editors like Obsidian.md. I mean, we could generate something like this quite easily, as a feature of data export.

I was also thinking the other day, about having the content of 0oo live as GitHub repository pages first, not on a single repository, but on repositories of many people (the authors of topics) (so someone like [chronological], who likes to keep his ideas on his own GitHub repo, could edit it there).

One special thing here, we have multi-lingual markdown pages, that have special extra syntax, allowing to combine versions of multiple languages into a single page.



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因此,我認爲最好添加主題和評論的語音版本,以便某人可以簡單地播放整個0oo流。可以使用GoogleTTSAPI輕鬆生成mp3文件,例如有聲讀物。考慮到聲音很流行,有些人可能想在這裏聽對話。有趣的是,這必須針對所有語言的版本進行。

此外,我們可以添加語音轉文字(例如otter.ai),以便某人可以簡單地記錄評論,並將其轉錄並翻譯爲其他語言,從而生成其他語言語音版本自動。

So, I think it would be good to add voice versions of topics and comments, so that someone could simply play entire 0oo stream. The mp3 files could be easily generated with GoogleTTS API, like an audio book. Considering that voice is quite popular, some people may want to listen the conversations here. It's fun that this would have to be done to the versions in all languages.

Additionally, we could add Speech-To-Text (like with otter.ai), so that someone could simply record a comment, and have it transcribed and translated to other languages, generating other language speech versions automatically.



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[justinmiyamoto],您的結果似乎不公開或不正確。我所看到的是this。我想,您的結果是關於UI設計或改進的?嘗試使Google Drive鏈接公開可見。

[justinmiyamoto], your result appears to be either not public, or incorrect. What I'm seeing is this. I suppose, your result is about a UI design or improvements? Try making google drive link publicly visible.

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我不得不提到,0oo作爲HomeBase的工作方式受到了我最喜歡的遊戲“ X-COM:UFO Enemy Unknown ”的啓發,其中人類必須管理基地以保護地球免受外來入侵與資源管理。因此,這就是每個項目都有“位置”(單擊“ + [傳輸]”旁邊的圖像)以及我的舊想法“ 目標跟蹤和資源管理”的原因數據庫。 :)無論如何,實際上確實有很多東西啓發了它。如果我們意識到,這個想法可能真的像是經濟X-COM,那麼這種樂趣實際上可能會真正開始。

I've got to mention, that the way 0oo works as a HomeBase, is a bit inspired by my favorite game, called "X-COM: UFO Enemy Unknown", where humans have to manage bases to defend Earth from Alien Invasion with management of resources. So, that's why each project has "Locations" (click image next to "+[Transfer]"), and my old idea of "Goal tracking and resource management" database. :) Anyway, there were really many things in fact, that inspired it. That fun could actually start in real, if we realize this idea that could be like an economic X-COM for good.



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標記已解決或已存檔挑戰的功能將很有用。我不喜歡刪除,因爲看到一個挑戰很有價值,現在它已經解決或不再相關。

A feature to mark solved or archived Challenges would be useful. I don't like deleting because it's valuable to see that there was a Challenge and now it's solved or not relevant anymore.

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有些評論(是對挑戰的迴應)可能以不同的顏色顯示,並且在這些挑戰下可以顯示出來,從而使該部分的工作原理類似於定額?我認爲,我們還應該選擇一個選項,使已解決的問題從主頁消失。

Some comments, those that are responses to challenges, may appear in different color, and be showable under those challenges, cause that part works a bit like quora? I think, we should also make an option then for the resolved issues to disappear from the home page.



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只需讓用戶設置項目的網址名稱,以便項目,想法等可以註冊其句柄,例如如果註冊了mutantu句柄,則 0oo.li / project / 1011 可以映射到 0oo.li / project / mutantu

Just let users set their project's url name, so that projects, ideas, etc. could register their handles, e.g. the 0oo.li/project/1011 could map to 0oo.li/project/mutantu if mutantu handle is registered.

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愛那個在網上聚會:

-鏈接目標和想法 -項目進度

會很有用,並有助於人們找到合作者並進入反饋循環以推動項目前進。

代替日曆,在人們單擊以宣佈願意連接Zoom的地方放置一個按鈕會很酷。

也許它可以從通用問題“ 0oo在線聚會”開始,其中0oo用戶在想在一起通話時發表評論。

Love that. Having online meetups for:

  • Linking Goals and Ideas
  • Projects Progress

would be useful and help people find collaborators and get into feedback loop to move projects forward.

Instead of a Calendar, it would be cool to have a button somewhere that people click to announce about willingness to connect on Zoom.

Maybe it can start as a generic Question "Online Meetups for 0oo" where 0oo users comment when they want to come together on a call.



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沒錯,這很有意義,通常是通過某些定時的在線活動來完成,而通過結合使用Zoom + Google日曆會很容易。但是,我認爲如果人數太少可能會不好玩。例如,如果只出現3個人:)如果說有8個人左右開始,那會更好玩,所以,我想,爲將來做計劃。好的方向。

另外,我想有多種會議: -(針對目標和想法)對它們進行排序和投票,幫助發現新的鏈接(相關作品)並進行自由交談 -(對於項目)有些人可能想像創業公司一樣定期瞭解他們的項目進度,並互相諮詢。

基於Airtable的日曆的缺點之一是,當添加到日曆時,它們不顯示事件的詳細信息,僅顯示名稱,因此我不知道實際上有多少人訂閱了它們。

Right, that makes sense, it's usually done through certain timed online activities, that would be easy by combining Zoom + Google calendar. However, I'd think it might be not fun if the number of people is too small. E.g., if just 3 people show up :) It would be more fun if there were say 8 people or so to start with, so, I'd think, well, plan it for the future. Good direction though.

In addition, I imagine there are different kinds of meetings: - (for goals & ideas) sorting and voting on them, helping discover new links (related works), and free talking - (for projects) there are people who might want to catch up periodically about their project progress, almost like startups, and consult each others.

One of the shortcomings of the Airtable-based calendars is that they do not show the details of the event, only name, when added to calendars, so I don't know how many people actually subscribed to them.



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功能請求的想法:

-邀請朋友參加1個小時的實時無限挑戰,在此期間每個人都在0oo.li上發佈有趣的問題/想法並評論彼此的帖子。

有時間限制可以使所有人集中精力進行創造性思考,並在陌生人之間快速建立紐帶。

我曾經主持過數百個陌生人的實時Twitter聊天。很棒!

Idea for feature request:

  • Invite friends for 1 hour real-time Infinity Challenge during which everyone posts interesting Questions/Ideas and comments to each other's posts on 0oo.li.

Having a time limit focuses everyone to think creatively and creates a bond between strangers fast.

I used to moderate live twitter chats for hundreds of strangers. Worked great!

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關於喜歡/不喜歡的評論,我們是否希望能夠看到誰喜歡/不喜歡? :)我認爲是的,因爲人們很想知道誰在閱讀它們,而沒有明確的答覆。

或者,更好的方法是進行讀取回執,以便任何人都可以選擇添加“對勾”來表示他們已閱讀,而喜歡的則用於評估而不是讀取回執指示。

Regarding comment likes/dislikes, do we want to be able to see, who liked/disliked? :) I think yes, because people care to know who read them, without explicit replies.

Or, better, make read-receipts, so that anyone can optionally just add a "tick", to indicate they had read, leaving the likes to be for evaluation rather than read-receipt indication.



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//頂部是“ Dream = World(Actions)”。.//

是的,視覺效果不錯!完全有道理。這是一個要做的事。 ;)

// "Dream=World(Actions)" at the top.. //

Yeah, and good visually! Totally makes sense. It's a to-do. ;)



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我添加了一個挑戰:主頁如何鼓勵新用戶查看平臺的用途? (來自6個人的反饋使他們感到超負荷)。對於新手來說,Dream = World(Actions)或Y = F(X)怎麼會更明顯?

建議:在主頁上,添加“ Dream = World(Actions)”,而不是“ FEEDS”(最近7天創建的項目以粗體顯示)。交流平臺的目的。 查看這張照片代表我的意思

I added a challenge: How can homepage encourage new users to see what the platform is for? (Feedback from 6 people about them feeling overloaded). How can Dream=World(Actions) aka Y=F(X) be more obvious for newbies?

Suggestion: On homepage, add "Dream=World(Actions)" instead of "FEEDS Items created in last 7 days are in bold." to communicate the purpose of the platform. See this photo of what I mean



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很高興看到喜歡評論功能!我想知道,將“-”轉換爲“?”是否有意義?這樣,“ +”表示同意,“?”表示要求澄清評論。這樣,它更具建設性,並鼓勵評論員繼續討論,而不是不同意結束討論。

Great to see likes on comments feature realised! I wonder, does it make sense to transform "-" into "?". This way "+" means agreement and "?" means a request to clarify a comment. This way it's more constructive and encourages commentators to continue discussion rather than disagreeing which ends the discussion.



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// Weirdo創意未來主義夢想家如何參加這些活動?

好吧,事件顯然需要日曆鏈接,我們可以在日曆鏈接旁邊顯示它們。 :)

// How do Weirdo Creative Futurist Dreamers come and join those events?

Well, events obviously need calendar links, that we could display alongside them. :)

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太好了,喜歡它!那麼,“怪異的創意未來主義者夢想家”如何參加這些活動?

Great, love it! So how do Weirdo Creative Futurist Dreamers come and join those events?

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:)我認爲,關於事件,我們有一個發生事件的地方:) [https://0oo.li/events](https://0oo.li/events)。我在想,我們可以使用它。救生艇基金會使用其“最新消息”([https://lifeboat.com/ex/whats.new](https://lifeboat.com/ex/whats.new)我們也可以這樣做,然後將這些事件與“問題/想法/項目”聯繫起來,讀者可能會發現參與其中很有趣。自動關聯,如果是關於藝術的,則可以連接藝術探索會議,等等。

:) I thought, regarding events, we have a place for events :) https://0oo.li/events . I'm thinking, we could use it. The Lifeboat Foundation uses its "what's new" "( https://lifeboat.com/ex/whats.new ), where they share various news they find and relevant to their audience. We could do too. Then link those events with Questions / Ideas / Projects, the readers of which may find it interesting to participate in them. E.g., if we have a topic on Finance, finance discussion events may be auto-linked, if it is something about art, then art exploration meetings could be connected, etc.

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//我建議在此添加跨學科討論,以作爲一種好處//

當然,這是有關其結構的位置和一般性的不可思議的事情之一-培養真正的跨學科思想。 :)這可能是一個真正獨特的好處:我認爲0oo的核心必須是“怪異的創意未來主義夢想家”,而其他人則更多是支持者,例如,監管機構/投資者/金融家-會說“哎呀” ”或“繼續前進”-通過監管或財務措施,同時保持創新精神不變。

// I suggest to add inter-disciplinary discussion as a benefit here //

Of course, that is one of those magical things about the place and generality of its structure -- it is to cultivate the truly interdisciplinary thought. :) It could be a truly unique benefit: I think the core of 0oo must the "weirdo creative futurist dreamers", and others be more of a supportive periphery, i.e., regulators/investors/financiers -- be the ones who say "ouch" or "go ahead" -- with their regulatory or financial actions, meanwhile leaving the creative spirit to be what it is.



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//希望公開討論科學和工程//

我建議在此添加跨學科討論作爲一個好處。有在線的地方供科學家交談。

但是,在互聯網上(或在世界範圍內)有一個開放的場所,可以一起“討論科學,藝術,設計,工程和商業”嗎?

它不存在。那麼,誰會不同意這樣多樣化的思維方式會產生意想不到的想法和項目呢?對於那些喜歡思考和創造的人來說,是一個很好的選擇。

// desire to discuss science and engineering publicly //

I suggest to add inter-disciplinary discussion as a benefit here. There are places on-line for scientists to talk.

But where is an open place on the Internet (or in the world) to discuss sciences, arts, design, engineering and business, all together?

It does not exist. So who would disagree that such a diverse mix of thinking would produce unexpected ideas and projects? Great offer for those who like to think and create.

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感謝您爲應對挑戰提出的出色建議[Ruta]。但是,所有很棒的建議,我都對其中一個有疑問:

//與西方國家和忙碌的城市相比,資源較少的國家更急於參與諸如0oo之類的新計劃

西方國家資金雄厚的科學研究並不意味着沒有公開討論科學與工程的願望。反之...

是的,鮮爲人知的大學很少,但是卻產生了傑出的才能。人才不是“大學”的功能,而是最終到達那裏的特定個人的功能(可能是由於他們的家庭和課外教育, 因爲大學)。因此,正如您曾經說過“ 1:1”一樣,我寧願不專注於入職大學,而是關注那些個人。

Thanks for great suggestions towards the tackling the challenge, [Ruta]. All great suggestions, though, I have doubts about one:

// Countries with less resources have more urgency to get involved in a new initiative like 0oo, compared to Western countries and busy cities with too-much-going-on

The scientific research being well-funded in the West doesn't imply that there is no desire to discuss science and engineering publicly. On the contrary...

Yes, there are little known universities, that had nevertheless produced exceptional talent. The talent is not so much a function of "university", but rather, of the specific individuals that end up there (likely due to their family and extracurricular education, not because of the university). So, I'd rather not focus on on-boarding universities, but focus on those individuals, as you once said 1:1.



    : Mindey
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Mindey,
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可再生能源挑戰:

//如何讓目標明確的利益相關者組成的願景者,監管者,發明家,行動者和金融家從世界不同的經濟集團來到0oo.li? //

分階段構建社區發展有助於並留出時間發展關係並享受旅途。我建議首先從最重要的小組開始:有遠見的人和發明家(以便0oo充滿討論和推動項目發展的主題)。然後轉向行動者+金融家。最後是監管者。

如何發現有遠見的人?我建議與研發經費較少的地區的大學聯繫。學生有時間思考,研究和發展。與西方國家和忙碌的城市相比,資源較少的國家更迫切需要參與諸如0oo之類的新計劃。只需向學生會,研發計劃,大學的開放式創新計劃發送電子郵件即可。從1個學生會開始。

關於“目標羣體”,我建議邀請研究可持續發展目標和/或在其任務聲明中具有“ 100%的生命”或類似目標的非營利組織在0oo上分享其研究項目,以便他們獲得來自人羣的意見,還邀請研究人員使用0oo對觀點和研究問題進行交叉授粉。

RE challenge:

// How to get goal-aligned interest groups of visionaries, regulators, inventors, doers+financiers to come to 0oo.li from diverse world's economic blocs? //

Structuring community development in stages helps and leaves time for relationship development and enjoying the journey. I suggest to start with the most important group first: visionaries and inventors (so that 0oo is filled with topics to discuss and drive projects from). Then moving to doers+financiers. Lastly, to regulators.

How to discover visionaries? I suggest to contact universities in locations that get less funding for R&D. Students have time to think, research and develop. Countries with less resources have more urgency to get involved in a new initiative like 0oo, compared to Western countries and busy cities with too-much-going-on. Simply sending emails to student unions, R&D programmes, open innovation programmes in universities is doable. Starting with 1 student union.

In terms of "goal-aligned groups", I suggest inviting non-profit organisations that research Sustainable Development Goals and/or have "100% of life" and similar in their mission statements, to share their research projects on 0oo so that they get input from the crowd, also invite researchers to use 0oo for cross-pollination of ideas and research questions.

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功能要求:

-在所有類型(問題,想法,項目)中添加標籤(元類別)將使用戶看到思想家的多樣性,並迅速意識到如何發表有用的評論

-元類別可以是:科學,經濟,文化,教育,藝術,哲學,技術

例如:

-如果有關於飛往火星的問題,則該問題被標記爲“科學”

-如果有關於改善道路的問題,則標記爲“經濟”

-如果談論人類的傳統和儀式,則被標記爲文化

-如果談論使學習變得更加有趣,則被標記爲“教育”

-如果談論社會規範和創造性實驗,則被標記爲“藝術”

-如果談論新的思維方式和心理模型,則被稱爲“哲學”

-如果談論新技術,則被標記爲技術

還有哪些其他元類別可以幫助對本網站上共享的所有內容進行分組?

Feature request:

  • Adding labels (meta-categories) to all types (Questions, Ideas, Projects) would allow users to see diversity of thinkers and quickly realise how to make a useful comment

  • Meta-categories could be: Science, Economy, Culture, Education, Art, Philosophy, Technology

For example:

  • if a question talks about flying to Mars, this question is labeled as Science

  • if a question talks about improving roads, it's labeled as Economy

  • if it talks about human traditions and rituals, it's labeled as Culture

  • if it talks about making learning more fun, it's labeled as Education

  • if it talks about social norms and creative experiments, it's labeled as Art

  • if it talks about new ways of thinking and mental models, it's labeled as Philosophy

  • if it talks about new technologies, it's labeled as Technology

What other meta-categories would help group everything shared on this website?

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來自[Ruta]的功能請求:

-在註釋中提到的任務中具有“完成”選項。

Feature request from [Ruta]:

  • have the "done" option in the tasks mentioned in comments.
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功能要求:

-評論中的圖釋

-主頁部分“操作”中的背景顏色與項目頁面中“結果”的背景顏色匹配

Feature requests:

  • Emoticons in comments

  • Background colour on homepage section "operations" to match a background colour of "results" within a project page

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驚奇地看到挑戰功能實現了!在尋求陌生人幫助時非常有用。我剛剛在SAME項目中發佈了我的第一個挑戰。

Amazing to see Challenges feature realised! So useful when asking for help from strangers. I just posted my first Challenge in SAME project.

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我需要一個<3按鈕進行評論。是的,[Ruta],這正是我想要添加的功能。 (⇡)

I need a <3 button for comments. Yeah, [Ruta], that's exactly the kind of functionality that I'd love to add. (⇡)

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在不久的將來,很容易直接通過0oo平臺爲人們宣告實現項目的結果提供資金。

這是如何工作的:

1.Funder發現要資助誰

資助者按類別(藝術,科學,創新等)對項目進行優先排序,並選擇要資助的項目

要麼

首先,出資者瀏覽所有研究問題,構想,項目並發現他們喜歡的一個或多個個體,並決定:

-通過定期捐款直接爲該用戶提供資金

-與該用戶一起建立一個項目,並附上經常性捐款

2.Funder單擊一個按鈕,每月向該用戶或項目進行選定金額的定期捐款

3.用戶不斷向項目申報結果,並向錢包中的經常性捐款進行兌現(可將資金轉入其在線銀行或貝寶)

此功能非常適合匹配慈善者/贊助人的藝術家/獨立研究人員,他們已經在大學,研究中心,藝術中心的部分課程中提供了“居留權”,“助學金”,“津貼”,“捐贈”

in near future, it'd be cool to facilitate funding people directly via 0oo platform for the results they declare realising projects.

this is how it could work:

1.Funder discovers whom to fund

a funder prioritises projects by category (arts, sciences, innovation, etc) and chooses a Project to fund

OR

first, a funder browses through all research questions, ideas, projects and discovers an Individual (or a few) that they like and decide to:

  • fund that user directly with a recurring donation

  • form a project with that user with a recurring donation attached to it

2.Funder clicks a button to make a recurring monthly donation of chosen amount to that user or a project

3.User keeps on declaring results to the Project and gets a recurring donation to a wallet that allows to cashout (transfer the money to their online bank or paypal)

this feature would suit perfectly for matching artists/independent researchers with philanthropists/patrons who already provide "residencies", "bursaries", "stipends", "donations" in programs part of universities, research centres, art centres

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因此,正如[Ruta]所指出的,擁有“ 挑戰”(例如KPI或項目目標)可以使項目受益,而且我認爲,我們還可以擁有“排行榜”在[0oo.li/projects](https://0oo.li/projects/)上查看或排序項目的選項。我同意這將是一件很棒的事情,是的,在項目的待辦事項列表中。

So, as [Ruta] has pointed out, projects may benefit from having "Challenges" (like KPIs or targets for projects), and I think, additionally, we could have something of a "Leaderboard" view or sort option for projects at 0oo.li/projects. I agree that this would be great things to add, and yeah, on the to-do list for projects.

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允許用戶添加到庫的鏈接將很有用。爲什麼?因爲我們閱讀文章,它們引發了想法和問題。類似於Instapaper / Pocket的類似功能,允許將鏈接添加到一個地方以供以後閱讀。

Allowing a user to add a link to Library would be useful. Why? Because we read articles and they spark ideas and questions.

Similar functionality like Instapaper/Pocket, that allow to add a link to one place to read it later.

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聲明結果的表格很困難,這會阻止新手用戶共享結果。可以簡化一下嗎?僅包括以下內容:-項目-發生的-摘要(將其重命名爲結果以使其保持一致,即在“項目”頁面上,按鈕上顯示“結果”,因此也將其保留在此處)-詳細信息-網址-花費的小時數(合併費用)和幣種,默認設置爲小時聲明)-作者-(隱藏所有其他字段,直到用戶學會聲明結果和小時數爲止)

A form to declare Results is difficult, this prevents newbie users of sharing results.

Could this be simplified and include only:

  • Project

  • Happened

  • Summary (rename to Result to keep it consistent, i.e. on Project page a button says "Result", so keep it here too)

  • Details

  • Url

  • Hours Spent (merging Costs and Currency, making hour declarations as a default)

  • Author

  • (hiding all other fields until users learn to Declare Results and Hours)

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在項目級別的用戶交互至關重要。因爲當項目發展時,用戶就有動力繼續創作。這是一個反饋循環。但是問每個項目是否需要幫助很奇怪。因此,用戶最終只能自己完成項目,這很費力。那麼該解決方案如何:-“項目”頁面中的“挑戰”按鈕,允許創建者評論其項目當前面臨的挑戰/需求是什麼? -通過這種方式,其他用戶(行動者)可以簡單地響應挑戰並提交結果。這將激發分佈在許多不同項目中的所有用戶之間的自發合作,並創造協同作用的時刻,在這些時刻,通過一起執行小任務,這些用戶將所有項目推向更高的層次。相同的行爲可以在相同的水平上重複並形成文化規範,即人們不會被束縛,而是會組織起來互相幫助並解決所有全球性挑戰。

User interactions on the project level are essential. Because when a project grows, users are motivated to keep on creating. It's a feedback loop. But it's weird to ask if each project needs help. So users end up working on their project solo, which is slow effort.

So how about this solution:

  • "Challenge" button within a Project page that allows a creator to comment on what are the current challenges/needs for their project?

  • This way other users (doers) can simply respond to Challenge and submit Results.

This would spark spontaneous cooperation between all users spread across many different projects and create a synergy moment, where by doing small tasks, together, these users kickstart all projects to the next level.

The same behaviour can repeat on the same level and shape cultural norms, i.e. instead of being stuck people would organise to help each other and solve all global challenges.

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功能要求:-添加“文化”作爲項目類型。 -在合併,重複甚至用戶意識到的情況下,用戶可以通過單擊按鈕“存檔”(使其變爲“無聲”帖子,但在主頁上不可見)來“存檔”問題或想法以前的帖子不再相關。存檔的帖子可以在標題中加上“已存檔”標籤。 -要求思想家“澄清”問題或想法的按鈕。 -使將現有的創意添加到現有項目變得更加容易(現在,創意以數字代碼的形式添加,有時會產生錯誤)。 -啓用查看問題和想法時編輯內容的“修訂”,因爲它顯示了思想者的思考過程,對於其他用戶來說很有趣/很有價值(例如WordPress網站具有此博客功能,Medium可能具有此功能) (也可以用於Blog功能。)-按鈕“邀請成員”到項目。 -如果項目是社區/成員項目,則在“項目”下有子項目。

Feature requests:

  • Add "Culture" as a Type for Projects.

  • A way for users to "Archive" a Question or Idea by clicking a button "Archive" (so that it becomes a "silent" post but not visible on Home page), in cases of merging, duplication or even when a user realises that a previous post is not relevant anymore. Archived posts could have a label "archived" in headline or something.

  • A button asking a thinker to "Clarify" a Question or Idea.

  • Make adding existing Ideas to existing Projects easier (now, Ideas are added as number-codes, which sometimes creates an error).

  • Enable seeing "Revisions" of what was edited when updating a Question and Ideas, because it shows a thought process of a thinker and is interesting/valuable to see for other users (e.g. WordPress websites have this function for blogging, Medium might have this function for blogging too..)

  • A button "Invite a Member" to a Project.

  • Have sub-projects under Project, in cases if a project is a community/membership project.

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功能要求:-在移動設備上滾動至頂部按鈕/圖標-爲現有創意選擇現有項目

Feature requests:

  • Scroll to Top button/icon on mobile

  • Selecting existing Project for existing Idea


Ruta, 💤
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功能要求:-在首頁上,在主要問題下方顯示子問題。對於像我這樣的用戶,發佈子問題有助於澄清思路,現在,在首頁上,每個問題都顯示在單獨的一行中。但是對於讀者來說,如果子問題沒有立即(在主頁上)看到層次結構,那麼子問題就可能不清楚或看起來是重複的。

Feature request:

  • On homepage, show sub-questions under the main question. For a user like me, posting a sub-question helps clarify thinking and now on homepage, each question comes up on a separate line. But for a reader, sub-questions can be not clear or seem duplicate, if they dont see hierarchy straight away (on homepage).
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功能要求:-在“註釋”框下顯示“ Todo”,“問題”,“想法”等。現在,只有當我分享我的評論並且稍後單擊“編輯”時,這些選項纔可見。許多用戶不知道這些選項可用,因爲很少有人單擊“編輯”。

Feature request:

  • Show "Todo", "Question", "Idea" and so on under a Comment box. Now, these options are visible only if I share my comment and later I click EDIT. Many users won't know that these options are available because few click "edit".
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功能要求:-單擊評論中的用戶名應打開該用戶的電報,以便我可以私下向他們發送消息並要求澄清評論。現在,我單擊一個用戶名並結束其個人資料頁面,單擊“開始聊天”並結束此處https://io.0oo.li/direct/username,所以我發送了一條消息,但用戶不在線,而用戶可能在Telegram上在線,這將立即引起評論的澄清

Feature Request:

  • Clicking on a username within comments should open a Telegram of that user, so that I can message them privately and ask to clarify a comment.

Now, I click on a username and end up on their profile page, I click on "Start chatting" and end up here https://io.0oo.li/direct/username, so I send a message, but a user is not online, while a user may be online on Telegram, which would spark a clarification of a comment straight away

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[Ruta],知道了:)將其添加到工作隊列中。 ^ __ ^很有道理。 7HUR = 70 USD-是的,差不多。匯率以[/rate](https://0oo.li/rate)每小時計算一次。

[Ruta], got it :) Will add that into work queue. ^__^ Makes a lot of sense. 7HUR = 70 USD -- yes, almost. The exchange rates are computed hourly, at /rate.

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功能要求:-將Markdown基礎知識添加到s文本框中,以便像我這樣的用戶學會在0oo上清晰地書寫(寫子彈令人困惑,然後我在這裏問您如何做)

Feature request:

  • Add Markdown basics to s text box, so that user like me learns to write clearly on 0oo (writing bullets was confusing before I asked you how to do it here)
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上一個功能請求:-在項目頁面頂部而不是底部顯示最新評論。因爲每個項目頁面都變成了一個很長的頁面,即使有一些評論也無法滾動,這爲想要閱讀最新信息和評論的用戶創造了等待時間

Last feature request:

  • showing the latest comments within a project page on top, not bottom. because each project page becomes a very long page to scroll even with a few comments, which creates a waiting time for a user who wants to read the latest and comment
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還有一項功能要求或說明:-用戶聲明小時數時,爲什麼餘額也將這些小時數顯示爲美元?例如7HUR = 70 USD?我寧願只聲明自己選擇的小時數或歐元,然後比較準確。

One more feature request or clarification:

  • when a user declares hours, why balance shows those hours as dollars too? like 7HUR = 70 USD? I'd rather declare only hours or euros of my choice then which would be more accurate.
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//要欣賞,喜歡,同意,不同意評論的表情符號// @user或[user]或其他哈哈。說得通。將添加這些。當然,並非總是需要響應,可能只想添加<3或ThumbsUp。

// emoticon to appreciate, like, agree, disagree with a comment // @user or [user] or smth else

Haha. Makes sense. Will add these. Definitely, not always one needs to respond, one may just want to add a <3 or ThumbsUp.

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功能要求:-欣賞,同意,不同意評論的符號或表情,而無需通過文本評論來回應-提及用戶的符號,例如@user或[user]或其他

Feature requests:

  • a symbol or emoticon to appreciate, like, agree, disagree with a comment without a need to respond to it via text comment

  • a symbol to mention a user, like @user or [user] or smth else

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去中心化的發展和清晰的0oo數據庫模型使我認爲我們可以去中心化該系統,但這必須是它自己的一項新工作。

The advances in decentralization and clear 0oo database model, makes me think that we could decentralize this system, but it has to be a new effort of its own.

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我認爲我們應該與分類帳(項目分類帳)方面的[opencollective.org](https://opencollective.org/)合作,並應該像0oo那樣討論所需的一般性。另外,考慮與[odoo.com](https://odoo.com)進行協作,因爲它們可以使公司自己完成幾乎所有業務運營,並且運行Odoo的公司可以輕鬆地將其部分數據從ERP發佈到0oo對於公衆。 (我們應該爲所有ERP爲此編寫一個odoo模塊。)

I think we should partner with opencollective.org on the ledger (projects ledger) side, and should discuss about desired generality, as we have on 0oo. Also, consider collaboration with odoo.com, as they provide the ability for companies do nearly all business operations by themselves, and companies running Odoo could easily publish parts of their data from ERP to 0oo for public. (We should write an odoo modules for that, for all ERPs.)

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我認爲登錄用戶需要一個閱讀器,該閱讀器將允許閱讀外部資源,並選擇要導入到0oo的內容。例如,像/ reader / ideas這樣的視圖可以讓我們像Halfbakery的讀者一樣使用0oo.li,並帶有特殊按鈕來導入我們喜歡的想法。同樣,/ reader / projects可以讓我們瀏覽和閱讀公司等。

這將使0oo.li的用戶像研究人員一樣工作,瀏覽外部問題,想法,項目,並導入gems以便在此處進行討論和工作。

就像我們的社區將擁有一個外部數據源的數據湖,並且能夠導入值得我們社區關注的事物。

I think logged in users need a reader, that would allow to read external sources, and choose what to import to 0oo. For example, the view like /reader/ideas could let us use 0oo.li like a reader of Halfbakery, with special button, to import the ideas that we like. Similarly, /reader/projects may let us browse and read companies, etc.

This would allow the users of 0oo.li to work like researchers, browsing external questions, ideas, projects, and importing the gems for discussion and work here.

It's almost like our community would have a data-lake of external data sources, and be able to import things worth paying attention to for our community.

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我認爲,我們應該作爲全球性的免費公共服務運營,因爲像Wikipedia這樣的網站可以作爲公共政治,創新和工作的基礎設施。儘管通常公共服務僅限於特定國家/地區,但它們也可以像付款處理程序服務一樣設計爲同時支持多個司法管轄區...

I think, we should operate as a global and free public service, because this type of site, like Wikipedia, serves like a basic infrastructure for public politics, innovation and work. While usually public services are limited to specific countries, they, like the payment processor services, can also be engineered to support multiple jurisdictions simultaneously...

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使OpenERP具有REST API,並使公司列爲0oo.li/projects,並使其自動在0oo.li/products上列出其產品?

Make OpenERP have REST APIs, and get companies listed as 0oo.li/projects and get them automatically list their products on 0oo.li/products ?

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0oo前端的當前問題:

UI如何起到破冰作用,並鼓勵人們發表幽默的迴應?

有哪些類型的想法?讓不同的人都喜歡在0oo上分享他們的想法。

Current questions for 0oo front end:

  • How can UI work as an ice-breaker and encourage people to post humourous responses?

  • What types of ideas there are? So that diverse people feel welcomed to share their idea on 0oo.

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關於雙重策略的思考:爲用戶數據的去中心化加密提供資金以使其能夠看到自己的業務,併爲服務的去中心化和取消所有權提供資金。

爲什麼?因爲開發去中心化解決方案所需的資金量足夠大,所以只能作爲業務運營的一部分來提供資金。

Thinking, of double strategy: business that funds decentralization encryption of user data from being able to see itself, and funds decentralization and dis-own-ment of its services.

Why? Because it's the amount of funds needed for development of the decenralized solution is large enough, that can only be funded as part of the business operations.

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關於時間銀行業務的一些想法:_“金錢將被定義爲“無償工作時間”-對一個人的公共債務,這是通過授予他們購買其他項目的結果的權利來覆蓋的……” _

[視頻](https://wiki.mindey.com/shared/shots/301ea6e53d99043b1cb297229-time-banking.mp4)。

重要的是在這種情況下,人們可以賺到有價值的(可追蹤的工作)金錢:)

Kelios mintys dėl laiko bankininkystės: "Pinigai tuomet apsibrėžtų kaip "nekompensuotos valandos" -- visuomenės skola žmogui, kurią ji padengia duodama teises už jas nusipirkti kitų projektų rezultatų..."

video.

Kas svarbu, tai, kad tokiu atveju žmonės galėtų vertę turinčių (atsekamų darbų rezultatų) pinigų pasigaminti :)

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現在,我在想0oo的[/products](https://0oo.li/products)部分可以像CraigList一樣工作,但支持人們自己的付款方式或批准付款的令牌。

Now, I'm thinking, that the /products section of 0oo could work a bit like CraigList, but supporting people's own payment methods, or tokens of approval of payments.

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// 感覺能看到一些思路和信息, 就是看不大明白咋回事咋操作的感覺,

其實,就這樣,首頁作爲一種像“收件箱”的角色。所以,如果評論在一些過去的想法,大家會看見有在首頁的沒看完的話題。怎麼看見?就是因爲有新沒有看過的評論的帖子成爲黑色字體。

平時,你可以一週一次來看看,有沒有什麼新的有意思的內容,也可以訂閱RSS。另外的描述都在/about裏面。

我們還沒有中文的描述視頻。準備做一個:)然後,有可能需要一個訂閱評論的功能吧?

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感覺能看到一些思路和信息, 就是看不大明白咋回事咋操作的感覺,

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考慮到這些想法,通過Metamask與以太坊連接,以選擇將創新簽名爲ERC721代幣是有意義的...

Thinking, for the ideas, it would make sense to connect with Ethereum via Metamask, to optionally sign innovations as ERC721 tokens...

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專注於設備和材料...將回答有關專有技術的大多數問題...

Focusing on equipment and materials... would answer most questions about know-how...

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是的,我們需要公開透明的直接貿易和產品交換。

Yeah, we need open and transparent direct trade and product exchange.

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思考-導入有關生產的數據時,不通過分銷商而是通過Homebase將實際製造商直接與市場聯繫起來:)

Thinking -- when importing data about production, to connect actual manufacturers directly with the market, not via distributors, but via Homebase :)

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思考-每當在0oo上處理貨幣時,都會想像與發行這些貨幣的人交朋友。經濟就是關係...

Thinking -- whenever dealing with currencies on 0oo, it's think of doing so like making friends with the people who issue those currencies. Economies are relationships...

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考慮其他功能:

-對於一般用戶:能夠立即聯繫許多聰明的人,以反饋對您精心設計的消息的巨大價值。我們已經有一些人在Telegram上,我們可以簡單地邀請他們參加Zoom會議,並分享有關整個通知業務的信息(即,一旦有人發佈,他們就會在Telegram上得到通知,並被邀請爲已發佈的內容提供反饋項目。)。因此,儘管我們已經邀請人們進入Telegram頻道,但他們目前尚無關於此機制的信息,以及在收到有關0oo的新主題的通知後必須做什麼。因此,我們應該組織Zoom會議開始這一過程。

-對於研究人員來說,是完整的數據庫(例如SQLite)下載(或與下載器等效的API序列化程序)。

-對於交易和經營業務,這是對付款的支持。考慮到付款,雖然Stripe很不錯,但我們必須支持使用任何方法的自由-從加密貨幣到銀行,PayPal等傳統貨幣。

-對於一般用戶而言,擁有“一個收件箱”可能會很好-例如,將“類別”,“想法”和“項目”合併到一個統一的項目列表中,這些項目只是被標記並且可以過濾,而不必訴諸於Elasticsearch。

-IRC Server,爲新帖子創建新渠道。

Thinking of the further features:

  • For general user: great value is in the ability to immediately contact many bright minds for feedback to your well-crafted message. We already have some people on Telegram, that we can simply invite to a Zoom meeting, and share about the overall notifications business (namely, that once someone will publish, they will get notified on Telegram, and are invited to provide feedback to the posted item.). So, while we had invited people already to the Telegram channels, they are currently not informed about this mechanics, and what they have to do once they get notification about a new topic on 0oo. We should therefore organize Zoom meetings to start this process.

  • For researchers, is the full database (e.g., SQLite) download (or just equivalently API serializers with downloader).

  • For trading and running business, it's the support for the payments. Thinking of payments, while Stripe is nice, we have to support freedom of using any methods -- from cryptographic currencies to traditionals like banks, PayPal, etc.
  • For general user, perhaps it would be nice to have "one inbox" -- i.e., merging "Categories", "Ideas" and "Projects" into one uniform list of items, that are just labeled, and filterable, without resorting to Elasticsearch.
  • IRC Server, to create new channels for new posts.
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在這一點上,我認爲在交流部分,專注於使人們能夠在市場上製造和擴展規模的工具和設備的貿易在戰略上是有利的,因爲這些都是在社會中創造價值的要素。

例如,電動工具,工業設備(例如採礦設備,農具,醫療工具和設備,實驗室設備,批量生產設備,芯片製造設備等)的交易-這些就是使現代生活變得更美好的變壓器和使能器可能。它們將最終幫助理解[訣竅圖](https://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Technology_20Maps_20_99)。

貿易重點:

-工業設備和材料

-醫療設備和材料

-實驗室設備和材料。

At this point, I think in the exchange section, it would be strategically advantageous to focus on trade of tools and equipment that empowers people to make and scale in markets, because these things are what creates value in societies.

For example, trading of power tools, industrial equipment, like mining equipment, farming tools, medical tools and equipment, laboratory equipment, mass production equipment, chip manufacturing equipment, etc., -- these are the transformers and enablers, that make modern life possible. They are what will eventually help understand the know-how graph.

Trade focus: - industrial equipment and materials, - medical equipment and materials, - lab equipment and materials.

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// 0oo含義:從零到無窮大?

是的,誰說我們應該做[0->∞](https://0oo.li),我們應該做[0-> 1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_to_One)?那些執行0-> 1的人通常無法獲得擴展的好處,並保持貧窮。零到無窮意味着要集中精力-既要創建以前不存在的事物,又要對其進行縮放。 :)

// 0oo meaning: from zero to infinity ?

Yeah, who said we should be doing 0 -> 1, if we can do 0 -> ∞? Those who do 0 -> 1, usually don't get the benefit of scaling, and stay poor. Zero-To-Infinity, means a focus -- both to create things that didn't exist before, scaling it. :)

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0oo含義:從零到無窮大?

0oo meaning: from zero to infinity ?

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因此,現在我們從實際項目的分享開始,與問題領域專家共享該項目,希望將他們聚集在一起解決問題。

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// 如何使Telegram機器人在無需我瀏覽器的情況下發布想法,...甚至評論?這肯定會節省我在手機上的時間。.

我認爲爲每個類別,想法,項目配備一個Telegram機器人是最有意義的,這樣在其中張貼的評論將自動與該主題的自動生成的Telegram頻道同步。

但是,這意味着創建一個新的Idea就像創建一個新的Telegram頻道一樣。這可以通過Telegram API完成。但是,這種機器人必須使用電報用戶的用戶名在Homebase上自動創建新用戶,並且在有多個用戶名相同的用戶時做一些理智的事情,基本上是在Homebase上生成帳戶。自動創建組的方法是:

<pre>

從telethon導入TelegramClient,事件,同步

從telethon導入功能

api_id = XXXXXX

// How about making a Telegram bot that posts an Idea, ..., or even a Comment without me going to my browser? It would save me time on mobile for sure..

I think it would make most sense to have a Telegram bot for each Category, Idea, Project, and so that comments posted in them would automatically be synchronized with autogenerated Telegram channel for the topic.

However, that would mean creating a new Idea would have to be like creating a new Telegram channel. This could be done by Telegram API. However, that kind of bot would have to automatically create new users on Homebase, using usernames of Telegram users, and do something sane when there are multiple users with same usernames, basically generate accounts on Homebase. The recipie to automate creation of group is:

from telethon import TelegramClient, events, sync
from telethon import functions
api_id = XXXXXX # Get on https://my.telegram.org
api_hash = 'YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY' # Get on https://my.telegram.org
client = TelegramClient('session_name', api_id, api_hash)
phone = '+ZZZZZZZZZZZZ' # (verify with other live connection)
client.start()
# Doing stuff:
created_group = client(functions.messages.CreateChatRequest(
        users=['inyuki', 'mindey'],
        title='Intent 5: Creating Deep Connections and Love in Society'
))
chat_id = created_group.__dict__["chats"][0].__dict__["id"]
invite = client(functions.messages.ExportChatInviteRequest(chat_id))
print(invite.link)
# client.log_out()

And, I think this would not make sense by default, only perhaps to be customly enabled for certain ideas, when the conversation size reaches some point.

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如何使Telegram機器人在不使用瀏覽器的情況下將想法,項目,類別甚至評論發佈到任何現有想法,項目,類別?這肯定會節省我在移動設備上的時間。

How about making a Telegram bot that posts an Idea, Project, Category or even a Comment to any of existing Ideas, Projects, Categories without me going to my browser? It would save me time on mobile for sure..

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這是[計劃在明天執行的任務](https://dynalist.io/d/RZd5BSIuIh7vhYHj3nkGruk-),至少從我這邊來說是這樣的:)我覺得我需要想要成爲管理員的朋友。

And here are the tasks planned out for tomorrow, at least from my side :) I feel like I need friends who would like to become administrators.

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在待辦事項中,正在改進Markdown的渲染。目前,換行符無法正常工作,對此感到抱歉。將修復它。也許讓我在這裏寫[github.com/infamily/homebase](https://github.com/infamily/homebase)...還是更好地使用Dynalist?實際看一下左側的“錯誤報告”。

Among the todo items, is improving the rendering of the Markdown. Currently line breaking doesn't work as expected, sorry for that. Will fix it. Maybe let me write here github.com/infamily/homebase... Or, better use Dynalist? Actually look at the "Bug report" on the left.

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似乎需要清除許多內容,或[標記爲刪除]。

Appears like a lot of content needs to be cleaned up, or [marked-for-deletion].

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顯然,[單頁應用程序](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-page_application)效果不佳。問題很多。一方面-某人只想與某人共享一個頁面,使他們下載整個應用程序,僅顯示一個頁面。

因此,現在,終於2020年,我決定嘗試在純Django的[infinity.family](https://infinity.family)上對其進行重做,而無需任何其他JavaScript。 ^ __ ^讓我們看看如何吧〜

順便說一句,所以,我仍在考慮將積壓的位置。也許應該在我們使用的任何東西上,例如我使用Dynalist。或者,如果我們使用GitHub的問題,最好在此處將天總結作爲任務結果。

Apparently, that single-page application didn't work out very well. Issues are numerous. For one thing -- someone who just wants to share a single page with someone, makes them download a whole app, just to show a single page.

So, now, finally 2020, I have decided to try to rework it in plain Django, right here, on 0oo.li, without any additional JavaScript. ^__^ Let's see how it goes~

Btw., so, I'm still considering, where to put the backlog. Maybe it should be on whatever we use, like, e.g., I use Dynalist. Or, if we use GitHub's issues, it would be nice to put day-summaries here as task results.

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大家好!因此,經過很長一段時間,Infinity有了一個全新的改版版本,並在一個新域[inf.li](https://infty.xyz)上。隨時發表評論並提出問題。 :)

Hey, guys! So, after a little long time, Infinity is in a fresh new reworked version, and on a new domain inf.li. Feel free to comment and ask questions. :)

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我花費了{3} :),並期望它將花費另外{{0.5}。

I spent {3} :), and expect it will take another {?0.5}.

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我已經編輯了我的評論。

i have edited my comment.

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我認爲這個項目很有趣。

I think this project is interesting one in there.

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諮詢了自己{0.2}小時;){?0.1}

和視頻:{0.3}:

[https://mindey.com/shots/0db4b367aef6eb779d3e13135-infty.mp4](https://mindey.com/shots/0db4b367aef6eb779d3e13135-infty.mp4)。

Consulted ourselves {0.2} hours ;) {?0.1} And video: {0.3}: https://mindey.com/shots/0db4b367aef6eb779d3e13135-infty.mp4.

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[aliev],[ruta]很長時間;)我們還在收到通知嗎?

[aliev], [ruta], long time ;) Are we still getting notifications?

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若要僅在抄襲到我們的電子郵件地址時就能夠共享關於盜版的隨機電子郵件對話,就需要具有解析能力,其中電子郵件的哪一部分描述了問題,哪些描述了想法,等等。一堆電子郵件轉發了,一封電子郵件可能有很多想法,也有很多問題,因此,隨機發送電子郵件到idea@infty.xyz-並且infty會自動找出問題所在,想法是什麼,等等?如果我們具有此功能,爲什麼不將網絡上的任何信息扔給它,然後讓它自動找出來呢? :)(我不是說我們將無法在不久的將來做到這一點,但不是在最近的EST。)

對於人爲輔助的交互,我認爲這更容易。例如,我在想如何在Wiki中寫出我的想法,並用某種語法對其進行標記,例如{:post infty | this is content:},以便我的Wiki使用infty API進行發佈對我來說。

因此,我們可以支持特殊標籤,以便寫電子郵件的人在將電子郵件轉發到idea@infty.xyz之後可以使用它,然後,如果他們確實是infty的用戶,並且他們的電子郵件來自預期的發件人,我們可以基於它創建內容項。

[ruta] to be able to share a random e-mail conversation on infty just cc-ing it to our e-mail address would require the ability to parse, which part of e-mail describes problem, which describes idea, etc. within a bunch of e-mails forwarded, and one email may have many ideas, and many problems, so, random e-mail to ideas@infty.xyz - and infty automatically sorts out what is the problem, what is the idea, etc? If we had this capability, why wouldn't we just throw any information from the web at it, and let it automatically figure this out? :) (I don't say we won't be able to do this in the near future, but not in the nearEST.)

As for human-assisted interaction, I think it is easier. E.g., I am thinking, how to write my ideas in my wiki, and just mark them up with some syntax, e.g., {:post it on infty|this is the content:}, so that my wiki would use infty API to post it for me.

So, we could support special tags, that people who write e-mails could use it when they forward e-mails to ideas@infty.xyz, and then, if they are really users of infty, and their e-mail is coming from expected sender, we could create content item(s) based on it.

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夥計們,我在想如何使人們更容易分享盜竊罪。

人們通過電子郵件進行了深思熟慮的討論。我們有時間考慮要通過電子郵件說的內容,因爲我們不必像通過實時聊天那樣被迫回答。爲什麼不通過允許人們抄送ideas@infty.xyz來輕鬆地將此類電子郵件對話添加到infty中呢?這樣,人們就無需離開一個可以進行對話的空間,但是他們仍然可以“保留關於盜版的知識並共享”。

([x.ai](https://x.ai/“ https://x.ai/”)的工作方式類似,您只需抄送AI)

[Mindey] [aliev] [george]

Guys, I was thinking how to make it easier for people to share on infty.

People have thoughtful discussions over email. We have time to think about what we want to say over email because we're not forced to respond just like we're over real-time chat. Why not make it easy to add such email conversations to infty by allowing people to cc ideas@infty.xyz ? This way people wouldn't need to leave a space where they have conversations but they could still preserve the knowledge on infty, and share it.

(x.ai works similarly, you just cc an AI)

[Mindey] [aliev] [george]

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[aliev]提出的一個過去的想法:如果評論看起來像是里程碑或任務,我們應該可以將其轉換爲里程碑。

One idea from the past by [aliev]: if a comment looks like a milestone, or a task, we should make it possible to convert it into it.

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您是否意識到人們在使用盜版軟件時實際上可以保持匿名?對於討論,我認爲這是一件好事。可以註冊一個免費的GitHub帳戶,並向GitHub註冊,一個人只需要一封電子郵件。 [Citizendium](http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Why_Citizendium?)曾嘗試使用實名政策,但Wikipedia似乎對匿名作者來說還算不錯。 ],[aliev]

Did you realize that people can actually stay anonymous while using infty? For discussions, I think this is a good thing. It is possible to register a free GitHub account, and to register with GitHub, a person only needs an e-mail. There had been an attempt on Citizendium to use real-name-policy, but Wikipedia seem to do just fine with anonymous authors... [ruta], [aliev]

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上圖目前不能代表整個項目。但是,我會盡快將其製作成這樣。評估Infinity項目的價值的問題在於,它有可能影響各個領域。我們正在談論要通過Infinity項目創建的數百萬家創業公司。

The graph above, currently is not representative of the project as a whole. However, I will try to make it such some time soon. The problem with evaluating the vaue of the Infinity project, is that it has the potential to affect diverse fields. We're talking millions of startup companies to be created via Infinity project.